Gay Marriage

excon · Nov 11, 2008, 06:42 AM

Hello conservative right wingers:

Why do you deny the happiness, that you yourself enjoy, from your fellow citizens? Isn't doing that UN Christianlike???? I think it IS!!!

You are bad and wrong for doing that. Tell my why you're not.

excon

speechlesstx · Dec 2, 2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxaprilwine

I think I heard my brother say...the reason why they had multiple wives...is because men are pigs! - He said it not me

So I couldn't agree more.

No argument there, I tell all the single women I know to remember the motto "all men are scum" and they'll do ok.

Altenweg · Dec 2, 2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Eventually gay marriage will have equal protection under the law, as we well know, nothing changes until the oppressed, or the minority, have raised enough hell. Thats been true of every rights movement in history. It looks as if the gay marriage folks have escalated to invading churches. Good for them. Wonder whats next??? Is denying them a piece of paper, and a few tax breaks, worth holding on to some outdated traditions??

Exactly! I wish I could give you a greenie Tal, because I couldn't agree more.

TexasParent · Dec 2, 2008, 10:12 AM

The solution is simple; the government and the courts support Civil Unions between human beings of either sex and stays out of the religious aspect of marriage.

As for churches, if one church decides that they won't marry people of the same sex then they can choose not to; however, if another church chooses to marry people of the same sex because their interpretation of the bible is different then they can.

Separation of church and state; and freedom of religion.

The evangelical or fundementalist Christian's do not hold the monopoly on the truth as there are dozens of different Christian denominations who interpret the bible differently and who is to say that their interpretation should trump other religions as well or those without a defined religion?

tomder55 · Dec 2, 2008, 10:22 AM

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The solution is simple; the government and the courts support Civil Unions between human beings of either sex and stays out of the religious aspect of marriage.

bingo ,back to the sensible solution offered by Steve and myself in the early responses to this thred.

Synnen · Dec 2, 2008, 10:28 AM

I think I also offered that solution on page one of this thread :P

talaniman · Dec 2, 2008, 10:55 AM

Is there another solution, or is that the only one you have, because that one was already rejected. Now what??

uvware · Dec 2, 2008, 11:07 AM

First of all I think that are you sterotyping ALL christians. That we all hate homosexuality and hate the people who choose the lifestyle. Yes, here are Christians out there who choose not to talk to, be near or love a homosexual person. I personally abhore Christians who persecute homosexuality and judge them...who are they to judge? Their anger and hate makes us all look bad. We, as Christians are supposed to love everyone. God did not only love the Christians he loves the non-believers too.

I think as a Christian, you choose to live a certain way. You choose to live by God's laws and life guidelines. So in that aspect, I do believe that I also have a right to choose to protect what I believe is right. Granted, it's my choice, my opinion but I still have a right to it and to vote for it. Just like people who believe that gay marriage has a right, they choose to support it and vote for it.

I find that so many people want me to be open minded, but no one wants to be open minded to my beliefs, especially if they are Christian.

Open mindedness goes both ways. Why can't you be opened minded to my beliefs too?

excon · Dec 2, 2008, 11:37 AM

Hello u:

Our founding fathers made that decision long ago, and we don't have a right to vote on it. It's like your right to own a gun. We can't vote that right out of existence because that right is guaranteed to you in the Constitution.

By that same token, and by that same document, gay people have the right to marry, if YOU have a right to marry, and you do.

You may have another opinion. You're welcome to it, and you're welcome to voice here. But, to DO something about it is abhorrent. We're not a nation that excludes people from participating in the political process. We're a nation that celebrates INCLUSION. That's the American way.

Fortunately, it's also WRITTEN into the Constitution.

excon

TexasParent · Dec 2, 2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by uvware

First of all I think that are you sterotyping ALL christians. That we all hate homosexuality and hate the people who choose the lifestyle. Yes, here are Christians out there who choose not to talk to, be near or love a homosexual person. I personally abhore Christians who persecute homosexuality and judge them...who are they to judge? Their anger and hate makes us all look bad. We, as Christians are supposed to love everyone. God did not only love the Christians he loves the non-believers too.

I think as a Christian, you choose to live a certain way. You choose to live by God's laws and life guidelines. So in that aspect, I do believe that I also have a right to choose to protect what I believe is right. Granted, it's my choice, my opinion but I still have a right to it and to vote for it. Just like people who believe that gay marriage has a right, they choose to support it and vote for it.

I find that so many people want me to be open minded, but no one wants to be open minded to my beliefs, especially if they are Christian.

Open mindedness goes both ways. Why can't you be opened minded to my beliefs too?

I don't have a problem with your beliefs, so long as you don't expect everyone else to live by them.

NeedKarma · Dec 2, 2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasParent

I don't have a problem with your beliefs, so long as you don't expect everyone else to live by them.

Ah but there's the crux of the matter, most christians expect everyone to live by their beliefs.



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