The drug war isn't working. I thought you knew it too.

excon · May 7, 2008, 06:20 AM

Hello:

There was a drug bust on the San Diego campus yesterday. It was mostly pot with some coke and some ecstasy thrown in..... It was just your normal bust...

I saw the coverage on CNN headline news (that's all I got these days). What surprised me, was the surprise of the announcer. He was just shocked that this took place. I mean, he was REALLY, REALLY shocked!! He asked whether the correspondent thought this was going on on other campuses in the country....

What???????

He evidently, thinks the drug war is working. He is living in la la land. Do YOU think the drug war is working too??????

excon

Synnen · May 8, 2008, 02:17 PM

I don't think it's working.

I think the BIGGEST lie out there is that pot is a "gateway" drug. Well, if you can buy harder drugs from the same guy that gives you the "soft" drugs, of COURSE that guy is going to try to get you hooked on the more expensive stuff! More money for him!

If you could buy pot someplace that didn't have harder drugs, like in Amsterdam or in British Columbia, then you wouldn't have that risk.

Besides--when's the last time you heard about pot, or some guy/gal ON pot killing someone, even accidentally? Compare that with the last time you heard about someone killing someone else because they were drunk--HOW often does that commercial say someone is killed by a drunk driver, again?

I think it's ridiculous that people think that the only people that do drugs are the uneducated, poor masses of under-intelligent people. Most of the drug users *I* know are very successful people--they kind of have to be, in order to afford the drugs.

Legalize and regulate! Drugs wouldn't tear apart families if you could get help without risk of being arrested for asking for it!

And yes, I'm a (lapsed) member of NORML. (I swear, it's just been a tough year. I will pay my dues as soon as I can!)

Skell · May 8, 2008, 02:55 PM

Many of you will argue that gun laws only give all the power to the bad guys.

So why doesnt it stand to reason to you that drug laws only give more power to the bad guys too?

jillianleab · May 8, 2008, 03:10 PM

Of course it's not working.

And of course we will continue to fight it, and spend oodles and oodles of money to fight a battle we will never win.

Because anyone who says we should stop the war on drugs hates children... or something like that.

Synnen · May 8, 2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillianleab

Of course it's not working.

And of course we will continue to fight it, and spend oodles and oodles of money to fight a battle we will never win.

Because anyone who says we should stop the war on drugs hates children... or something like that.

Am I detecting sarcasm here?

And Skell....laws BANNING drugs or alcohol or guns only give the power to the bad guys.

REGULATING those things gives the power to the good guys.

And frankly, all things considered---people believing in personal responsibility would go a long way towards not needing that sort of regulation at all.

George_1950 · May 8, 2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillianleab

Of course it's not working.

And of course we will continue to fight it, and spend oodles and oodles of money to fight a battle we will never win.

Because anyone who says we should stop the war on drugs hates children... or something like that.

I don't hate mine, and they are past the age that I can have much influence on their decision to buy. So, if one of them were to buy pot, where would the most reliable seller be located? As long as pot is illegal, it will be somewhere in the shadows. I would prefer the transaction to take place 'in the open', and subject to tax if necessary.

jillianleab · May 8, 2008, 07:25 PM

I see synnen has her sarcasm detecter on!

inthebox · May 8, 2008, 07:46 PM

So, if illegal drugs were now legal, we would not have congress asking Roger Clemens questions?

Altenweg · May 9, 2008, 07:18 AM

I don't live in the States, I'm in Canada so some of the issues you all are dealing with in regards to drugs are a bit different than the issues here.

Are we winning the war, no, are we fighting the battle, I believe we're trying, but we're failing miserably.

Personally, legalizing drugs is the way I think we should go. Sometimes things lose there desirability if they are no longer forbidden. Also, taxes on the sale of drugs would be astronomical, talk about helping the economy.

I'm for the legalization of drugs, that's the only way we can even hope to gain a modicum of control.

jillianleab · May 9, 2008, 09:07 AM

Oh yeah, it's working!

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Skell · May 11, 2008, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synnen

Am I detecting sarcasm here?

And Skell....laws BANNING drugs or alcohol or guns only give the power to the bad guys.

REGULATING those things gives the power to the good guys.

And frankly, all things considered---people believing in personal responsibility would go a long way towards not needing that sort of regulation at all.

Not sarcasm towards your thoughts at all Synn. Frankly i agree with you. My comment was directed at those who have argued previously that even REGULATING guns is a bad idea and wont work. Many on here think it should be a free for all with everyone carrying what they want. I wanted to see if they had the same thoughts on drugs.



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