Department of Peace

tomder55 · #1 Oct 26, 2008, 03:39 AM

Do you think with a possible Obama Presidency and a possible Democrat fillibuster/veto proof majority in Congress ,that the cabinet level Dennis Kucinich initiative 'Dept of Peace ' will be passed and signed into law ?
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The Kucinich proposal is actually not a new-age peace-nik idea. One of the original signers of the Declaration of Independence ,Benjamin Rush ,proposed the establishment of a “Peace Office” which was to be on equal footing with the “War Office”.
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Some of the Department authority will be “to develop policies to address violence against animals” and “develop new approaches for dealing with the implements of violence, including gun-related violence and the overwhelming presence of handguns”.

When Obama spoke of a civilian organization equal in power to the military I think this is what he had in mind.

NeedKarma · Oct 26, 2008, 03:40 AM

Peace is good, don't you think so?

tomder55 · Oct 26, 2008, 03:44 AM

I think every non-military dept in our overbloated government is involved in "peace" . We do not need the redundency. I would further argue that to a large extent the US military is involved in "peace" actvity.

NeedKarma · Oct 26, 2008, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I would further argue that to a large extent the US military is involved in "peace" actvity.

That is debatable.

speechlesstx · Oct 26, 2008, 04:11 AM

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That is debatable.

Kind of like those UN peacekeeping forces?

NeedKarma · Oct 26, 2008, 04:12 AM

Do UN Peacekeeping forces initiate or react?

speechlesstx · Oct 26, 2008, 04:23 AM

Wouldn't this be a violation of separation of church and state?

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In General- The Secretary shall--

(1) work proactively and interactively with each branch of the Federal Government on all policy matters relating to conditions of peace;

(2) serve as a delegate to the National Security Council;

(3) call on the intellectual and spiritual wealth of the people of the United States and seek participation in its administration and in its development of policy from private, public, and nongovernmental organizations

Kucinich is calling for religion in government? Nah, I'm sure he meant more like his wife's "spirituality," he probably thinks she'd be a good first secretary.

excon · Oct 26, 2008, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Do you think with a possible Obama Presidency and a possible Democrat fillibuster/veto proof majority in Congress ,that the cabinet level Dennis Kucinich initiative 'Dept of Peace ' will be passed and signed into law ?

Hello tom:

I dunno about specifics, but an Obama presidency will take this country in a NEW direction...... Ifin he needs a new department to get him there, then that's cool with me....

Get ready for the ride of your right wing life.

excon

PS> I dunno what yer so pissed off about. If the policies YOU supported, and the dufus DID, were worth a crap, we wouldn't be taking this NEW direction.... What??? Yer still gonna yell the neocon stuff, even though it's been TOTALLY repudiated by your fellow Americans?????

tomder55 · Oct 27, 2008, 04:45 AM

Oceania had a 'Ministry of Peace' also .

Steve ;The $845 billion Obama plans to transfer to the UN will buy lots of peace.

speechlesstx · Oct 27, 2008, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Do UN Peacekeeping forces initiate or react?

What would you call raping the population under their protection, initiating or reacting?



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