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    talaniman Posts: 54,327, Reputation: 10855
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    #701

    Mar 5, 2014, 06:55 PM
    Here is an aversion to reality you can't blame on the dems,

    How big a mess is Ryan's report on poverty? Scholars say: Very big. - latimes.com

    Perhaps the most egregious case is Ryan's misuse of a 2013 paper from Columbia University's Population Research Center. Ryan claimed the study found that poverty fell from 22% in 1969 to 16% in 2012, based on a Census Bureau statistic known as the Supplemental Poverty Measure. That's true as far as it goes, but it goes suspiciously not far enough. As Jane Waldfogel, one of the Columbia researchers, observes, the study actually began its measurement with 1967, when the poverty rate was 26%. In other words, Ryan's paper arbitrarily ignores two years of measurement, thereby cutting the size of the poverty decline by a third.
    Sloppy research, or intentionally misleading? BOTH? Probably. Sorry no pictures.
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    #702

    Mar 5, 2014, 08:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Of course you have a point, I assume. Or some facts to go with your pictures. Maybe not huh?
    I'm impressed that he actually showed up
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    #703

    Mar 6, 2014, 05:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Of course you have a point, I assume. Or some facts to go with your pictures. Maybe not huh?
    Did you look closely?
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    #704

    Mar 6, 2014, 06:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Here is an aversion to reality you can't blame on the dems,

    How big a mess is Ryan's report on poverty? Scholars say: Very big. - latimes.com



    Sloppy research, or intentionally misleading? BOTH? Probably. Sorry no pictures.

    And no one in government has ever given us misleading numbers, eh? How many jobs "saved or created?" How many Obamacare enrollees? How many economic reports have been downgraded of late?
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    #705

    Mar 10, 2014, 11:05 AM
    Leave it to libs to protest a generous donation to a hospital, because well, evil Kochs.

    The Koch brothers are at it again. Their right-wing political Panzer Division descended on a New York City hospital over the weekend to protest (!) the addition of a new ambulatory care center. What the hell, Koch bros? Why not pro-America?


    Sorry. That’s not quite right. In fact, it was the New York State Nurses’ Association, the NAACP New York State Conference, and SEIU Local 1199, among others, who marched on the soon-to-be-built David H. Koch Center at New York-Presbyterian Hospital, which was funded in part by a $100 million donation from the man one prominent liberal recently predicted would go down in history as a “famously evil person.”


    The donation was the largest in the hospital’s history, and will presumably create a fair number of new nursing jobs. So why are the usual suspects up in arms? Well, the agitators were apparently agitated because this particular hospital didn’t need all the money. Oh yeah, and because it was International Women’s Day, and the Kochs are the primary funders of the “war on women’s reproductive rights … and many other issues of concern to American women.” They’re also behind “the effort to defeat and repeal healthcare to all Americans,” whatever that means.


    Ben Kallos, the local New York City Council representative, was on hand ...

    Just to be clear: Kallos is a sitting city council member who attended a protest against the addition of a new hospital care center in the neighborhood he represents because … Koch brothers!
    What the hell???
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    #706

    Mar 18, 2014, 10:11 AM
    crickets chirping. Anyone who has been treated at most of the NYC hospitals have been treated in a hospital that Koch Bros have donated subtantially to. In his lifetime,David Koch has pledged or contributed more than $1 billion to cancer research, medical centers, and educational institutions.His brother Charles has been equally generous.
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    #707

    Mar 18, 2014, 10:25 AM
    So he is generous? He is also a liar with his flooding of commercials about horror stories that have been debunked about people losing insurance policies, and his energy companies are the worse polluters in many states. He pays his fines.

    He ain't perfect, but he's rich. There is good and bad in all humans. So what?
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    #708

    Mar 18, 2014, 10:30 AM
    Nice little addition by the author:
    (Full disclosure: I am contractually obligated to incorporate an anti-Clinton angle in everything I write,
    What news agency puts those stipulations on their reporters/writers?
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    #709

    Mar 18, 2014, 10:35 AM
    Hello again, tom:
    crickets chirping.
    The Koch bros are very generous people... They even contribute to PBS.. Whoda thunk that? Nonetheless, that doesn't mean they can BUY elections.

    No crickets here.

    excon
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    #710

    Mar 18, 2014, 10:36 AM
    Debunked horror stories about people losing their insurance over Obamacare? Not even Obama believes those were anything but true.

    That's why the emporer issued decrees delaying many parts and issueing exemptions to practially anyone who contributed enough to democrat causes..

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