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Old Dec 4, 2007, 07:16 PM
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Contraception in schools

For school we're having to write a persuasive paper on a topic of our chosing. I recently had to switch mine because, i was having issues finding information on my other topic. The topic i got switchted to is 'Contraception in schools' basically whether or not school nurses should or should be allowed to give out contraceptives, confidetially and at low cost. Just out of curiosity more than anything i was wondering what Other people thought about this topic. Any of your opinions would be apretiated, and/or imformation that could help me with my paper...

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Old Dec 10, 2007, 04:06 PM   #61  
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Speechless, I's rather see a non-viable tissue mass sucked out of their womb than a teenager having a baby she's not ready for and tossing it in a trash can or leaving it on the bathroom floor of a public restroom, these things happen everyday, or don't you watch the news? Besides, the issue here isn't about abortion it's about contraception and even though accidents do happen even when you're careful there are definitely tons of options out there that prevent pregnancy and it's not in anyones best interest not to discuss these options with our kids. You have a right to your opinion as does everyone else in the world. If you don't want your kids using contraception then don't tell them about it, you can deal with a teenage unwed mother when it happens. I'm the mother of two and even though they're both too young to worry about sex and pregnancy I will expose them to contraceptives when the time comes and hope that I've ingrained in them the fact that I am open to hearing anything they have to say and will always listen with an open mind and heart. But there is absolutely no reason that teens should be having children when there are ways to prevent it and short of locking them up in a monastery you are not going to prevent these teens from having sex. Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Old Dec 10, 2007, 04:40 PM   #62  
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Well, yes and no I suppose. Granted, there were things my parents could have taught me but didn't that would have been helpful. On the other hand I believe we've lost so much by not letting kids be kids. Parents need to be the parents and kids shouldn't be exposed to so many things they aren't equipped to handle. I hear people complain of TV, music and video games rotting their little brains - yet we want them to be exposed to all the details of adult sexual relationships? That doesn't make sense to me, 6 year olds should be playing tee-ball, finger painting and sliding down slides, not preparing for sexual relations.
I agree, lots of kids aren't allowed to be just kids. Sometimes we treat them like mini-adults when they should be playing in the dirt and giving each other cootie shots. I'm thinking more about older kids - teens. I have a 15 year old sister in law, and you would not BELIEVE how ill-equipped for the real world she is! This is in part because she's been treated like a "precious little snowflake", and it really, really worries me as she gets older. Should 6-year olds be preparing for sexual relations? No. But they should know about families, and communities and how to treat others. That's all part of comprehensive sex ed; not teaching them how to give BJ's, but teaching them that it takes all kids to make up a world.
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With regards to the argument that abstinence worked in the 50s and 60s, I'd like to point out the following:

1. If you got pregnant then, your choices were to disappear for a few months and give your baby to strangers, never seeing him/her again, or getting married to the schmuck who knocked you up. If you could find him.

2. If you got married, and had kids, YOU raised them. YOU paid for them, maybe with some help from your family. There were no food stamps, government aid, welfare, whatever. I'm ALL for that.

Frankly, it's not teaching abstinence or birth control that's the problem here. It's not teaching kids that in the end, THEY are responsible for their mistakes, and no one else is going to help them "fix" it.

If you HAD to get married or give your baby away, then YEAH, you're going to be a heck of a lot more careful about having sex. That goes for both men AND women. If you could still beat the hell out of the kid that knocked your daughter up, then YEAH, that kid would be more careful. If you had to drop out of school, and give up the rest of your life to work in blue collar factory because you had to feed your wife and kid somehow--well, of COURSE you're not going to have sex until you're ready for that.

It's not protection, or morals, or abstinence, or whatever. It's the fact that every 15 year old out there knows her parents can't make her do anything, and every guy out there knows he won't have to marry the girl if he knocks her up. It's the fact that being a single parent doesn't mean you'll ALWAYS be a single parent anymore--it used to make you a whore to be raising a child without having married.

So, by all means--let's go back to teenage weddings, get rid of welfare, and find babies for all of those "desperate, loving couples who LONG to hold a baby in their arms and call it their own".
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I don't seehow that is helping anyone.. but okay..

I'd rather just have a person take responsibility for their own actions AND have choices with how to deal with it.

People say oh, abortion is just the easy way out, well no, it's less inconvenient in the long run, but you don't see women standing in line with lollypops and balloons at the abortion clinic. For some women they made a mistake, which can happen to anyone, and this is how they feel is best for them to deal with it.

I don't think that necessarily waiting until marriage is a great idea either 'cause I'd rather know what I'm getting into sexually, whether I'm going to be compatible or not, and even responsible people who use BC and Condoms can have an accident.
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Sorry...I thought my tongue-in-cheekness was more obvious than it apparently was.

I'm a HUGE advocate of choice. Look at any of my previous arguments in other threads.

I just don't think that any ONE solution is going to work. Personal responsibility will--but how do you teach that when there are virtually no consequences, no unbearable hardships?
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Oh, I see, I was like, are you serious? XD

The fact of the matter is that abortion, having the baby, giving it up for adoption, all of them are forever and they're all hard. The problem is that we need to help people learn to not let it get to that point. Everyone should beable to get protection, that's the reponsible thing to do. Unfortunately. everything in life almost is a responsibility and unfortuntely people are too closed-minded to let people live their lives how they live, or too stupid to deal with their own lives. What we need is a medium.
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Has anyone looked at the potential side effects of oral contraceptives
for example
Ortho-Novum side effects (Norethindrone and Ethinyl Estradiol) and drug interactions - prescription drugs and medications at RxList
Thrombophlebitis
Arterial thromboembolism
Pulmonary embolism
Myocardial infarction
Cerebral hemorrhage
Cerebral thrombosis
Hypertension
Gallbladder disease
Hepatic adenomas, carcinomas or benign liver tumors



This is a medical issue, not a school issue. Therefore it requires parental consent.
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Does anyone have children on asthma inhalers, isulin, or adhd medications?

You know the paper work and all the permission slips needed to give these medications.

Why even the thought of a prescription medicine without parental consent? ie. "confidential"



I remember it the mid eighties when airbags were mandated. They made intuitive sense.
A couple of years later small peolpe [ women and children primarily ] were being killed or maimed by them. Now we have the warnings.
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Why? The kids can go to the health department and get them without parental consent. If a person is old enough to be aving sex they need to be able to take responsibility for it themselves. Their parents may deny them the contraceptives because they don't wat then to have sex so they will continue unsafe practices anyways.

I agree. BC isn't for little girls, and maybe not something that should be in the school, but a girl when she's old enough NEEDS to be able to have access to it if she wants.

Condoms on the other hand should be easily available.
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This is a medical issue, not a school issue. Therefore it requires parental consent.
It seems we have all agreed on that.
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And tell me speechless, are you a man or a woman?
And the relevance of that question is what exactly?
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