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Old Dec 4, 2007, 07:16 PM
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Contraception in schools

For school we're having to write a persuasive paper on a topic of our chosing. I recently had to switch mine because, i was having issues finding information on my other topic. The topic i got switchted to is 'Contraception in schools' basically whether or not school nurses should or should be allowed to give out contraceptives, confidetially and at low cost. Just out of curiosity more than anything i was wondering what Other people thought about this topic. Any of your opinions would be apretiated, and/or imformation that could help me with my paper...

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Old Dec 8, 2007, 09:45 AM   #31  
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Why is planned parenthood evil? Because they offer abortion services to women? So now, not only can a girl not get a condom at school or BC through the school nurse, but she can't find help if she wants to abort the baby she created because of her lack of information or assistance. I wasn't taking anything to the extreme, I was mocking the way you sound. I'm not saying give condoms and BC to 12 year old, but to girls in high school, definitely, their parents may not support them and may not allow them to do what they need to do to protect themselves because they are trying to keep them from doing something they're obviously going to anyways.
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My opinion is PP is an evil, subversive organization responsible for the deaths of more children in this country than anyone else.
That sounds like someone harboring a lot of anger and hatred.

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Think about the world we live in today. There is influences every where that tells kids that sex is fun, it feels good, it’s a game, it makes you a grown up and there is no consequences. And yes I will say it…parents plays a big part in what kids do with their spare time. You put satellite TV in the kids room to watch what ever they please. You let them listen to sexually explicit music. You give them there own cell phones and computers with out keeping track of what they are doing and who they are talking to. You get divorces and have your boyfriend/ girlfriends stay over while your children are in the next room. You are so busy trying to keep up with the Jones you don’t have time to keep up with where your kids are or what they are doing. You fool yourselves into thinking that a 13 year old is mature enough to make the right decision and forget that they are still kids. You give them freedoms at 13 to run around and do as they please that 16 year olds probably shouldn't have. If other parents or teachers confront you about your child's behavior you go into a rampage, “ Not my little angel!” God forbid that they might need a hand on the butt as a form of punishment once in a while….Oh no that’s abuse! You treat them like little miniature adults they are not, they are kids!! You don’t see what is right in front of your eyes, you don’t listen to them when they speak and you are embarrassed to talk to them about sex. Then you wonder why they are having sex!! Sure there are exceptions where teen girls and boys end up with babies even though their parents did everything right, but in general as long as we have public schools with kids whos parents are not being responsible this will go on forever. Now that I got that off my chest….
Statistics shows that a lot of teens have sex by the time they are 14. It is better they know how to protect them self’s from HIV, pregnancy and STD’s and they need to have access to the tools to protect themselves if they do decide to have sex.

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Besides, if they're gonna do it, they're gonna do it, there's a point where a kid starts taking their own chances and making their own decisions and sometimes it doesn't matter what the parents do. Keeping them ignorant and unable to get protection is just stupid.
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Aside from the moral implications of this entire conversation--who knows a teen that did/does NOT have the attitude "It happens, but statistics show that it probably won't happen to ME. Especially not if I'm CAREFUL!"

They apply that to their sex lives, their driving, their attitude towards death.
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It's not just condoms anymore, stonewilder. There is a school in Maine which is providing birth control pills to pre-teens. That's where the bigger controversy lies.

FOXNews.com - School Board Approves Birth Control Prescriptions at Maine Middle School - Health News | Current Health News | Medical News
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It's not just condoms anymore, stonewilder. There is a school in Maine which is providing birth control pills to pre-teens. That's where the bigger controversy lies.

FOXNews.com - School Board Approves Birth Control Prescriptions at Maine Middle School - Health News | Current Health News | Medical News

Ok I missed that part of it. I can admit that passing out birth control pills is taking it a step too far with out the parents permission. I say that for two reasons. One a parent needs to know what medications their kids are on and two, if they are using birth control that means they aren't likely to be using the condoms.
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That sounds like someone harboring a lot of anger and hatred.
The word is contempt.
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Why is planned parenthood evil? Because they offer abortion services to women?
For my personal beef with PP, click here.

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So now, not only can a girl not get a condom at school or BC through the school nurse, but she can't find help if she wants to abort the baby she created because of her lack of information or assistance.
Seriously now, since when is it the school's place to manage youth's sex lives? You don't find it a little disturbing that a 15 year old girl can't get a drivers license, can't buy a beer, a cigarette or go to an R-rated movie but it's ok for her to get an abortion? There's something very wrong with that, and very wrong with such a callous disregard for human life, for that "baby she created" that people would actually defend abortions for kids for the sake of convenience.

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I wasn't taking anything to the extreme, I was mocking the way you sound. I'm not saying give condoms and BC to 12 year old, but to girls in high school, definitely, their parents may not support them and may not allow them to do what they need to do to protect themselves because they are trying to keep them from doing something they're obviously going to anyways.
Mocking, even better, lol. It's interesting how anyone that shows deserved contempt for PP and the chaos they've helped create gets mocked. Do you not find it ironic and inconsistent to mock me for fighting for the right to privacy - the right for parents to raise their children without government or Planned Parenthood interference - while a group that bases its abortion defense on "privacy rights" fights against that parental right to privacy?

Here's the thing on your last point - it's not just justifying this condom giveaway because "they're obviously going to anyways" - it's a surrender. Why should we surrender to the possibility of a future of guilt, shame, torment for our children? Why should we just give up and say "they're obviously going to anyways?" Aren't they worth more than that?
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Aside from the moral implications of this entire conversation--who knows a teen that did/does NOT have the attitude "It happens, but statistics show that it probably won't happen to ME. Especially not if I'm CAREFUL!"

They apply that to their sex lives, their driving, their attitude towards death.
You are absolutely right, and that's a big reason why I would never trust my children in the hands of PP or the government.
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