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I was wondering what peoploe think about organizations like the ACLU trying to get christian icons removed from public schools. They go as far as saying that even the colors red and green count as icons for christmas and should not be used. It seems to me they are a bunch of people who fight for freedom of expression and religion as long as your not a christian. In case anyone doesn't believe they (ACLU) aren't radicals, Hellen Keller was extremely radical (on the socialist side, which is understanable from her past of overcoming disabilities) and helped in the establishment of the ACLU. Any ideas? Further, are there any christians out there who are offended when corporations prohibit employees from wishing you a merry christmas?
Sorry i havn't replied to my own thread in wuite some time, but i've been busy. First, yes i am anti-liberal scotty, but you need to understand that here at the university of iowa i am a speck of red in an ocean of blue, and it's the liberals here that have made me this way. Also, most conservatives that voice their political views in forums like this are usually extreme like me. SO long as the liberal i converse with isn't arrogant, i'm extremely tolerant and actually intrigued.
However, i have read some posts that perpetuate extreme ingorance. The ACLU is the most radical organizations in America. They are anti-christian, pro-prostitution. Makes a lot of sense huh? Anyways, someone mentioned that public schools force christianity upon students if there are religious icons. Prepostorous!!!! Let me tell all of you one thing that has bothered me most about the liberal garbage i read everyday in this country. prohibing the colors of CHRISTmas is rediculous! Another example is not allowing intelligent design to be taught in school. Think about this: We are bringing up an ignorant genereation of youth. They are ignorant to things like culture, religions in our country, and accurate history of our nation. But they aren't ignorant to things like sex, drugs, etc. It kills me to see this happening. Is it so wrong to have "under God" in the pledge. NO, it's not the students complaining it's the stubborn parents. Leacing it in there actually teaches our children that the framers WERE strongly Christian. PSI42 is completely wrong and needs to go back to school. Yes, that's right, the foudning fathers of this country were christian and DID base many things that they did off of that belief. Here in Iowa CIty, there is a muslim girl who isn't even a citizen but making a problem b/c they are going to build a statue of an angel fo hope in a public park. She's an idiot! The city isn't even paying for it, the money is coming from donations made by people. Being ignorant to other cultures results with genecide. ignorance to one's own culture leads to suicide. Present time, it's not PC for a christian like me to say stuff like this. Yet, ACLU and other crack heads like them can do whatever they want. Our society is leaning to become anti christian. The ten commandments aren't offensive to anyone but some loud mouth that wants to be on CNN. Fact: The definition of a religion is A) a belief in God, or B) a system of beliefs. Atheism is a RELIGION b/c it's based on a belief of secularism, and belief in No deity. By eliminating all religious icons we are endorsing their religion. This is irrefultable fact. You are violating my rights to represent my religion in this nation.
Stated earlier by scott (i think) it was said religion is a social construct. So's race. It's a social construct and has no biological reasoning behind it (confirmed by Harvard University). So why is it that you dem's fight for affirmative action, but don't fight for religious equality. You may say you do, but by tearing down my religion not just in papers, but even in forums like these (it happens all the time) you are discriminating against me.
Sorry for the ramble there. ANyways, my main point is though, that we are teaching ignorance in our schools. The history they learn is fabricated. All they learn about is secularism. THere are secular ways of teaching religion, and it can only help them. The only thing is that all the muslim, jewish, atheist, etc, parents out there are worried that there children might be free-thinkers and convert to christianity. That's where the problem is. People tend to think that they have a right to interpret the constitution as though they were the Supreme Court. Well you're not. Freedom of Religion means to not set a specific national government. Not, prohibit religion from public places.
This is a damn good idea, teach it fine but DON'T teach it as science which is what has almost happened.
ID is so linked with religion it's scary, and to try and teach it along side Darwin is a total farce !
Obviously you don't know what science is. If we define Biology it's the life processes or characteristic phenomena of a group or category of living organisms, including their structure, function, growth, origin, evolution, and distribution. Creationism teaches this along with evolution, just from two different points of view. Evolution. by the way, is not the most solid theory. If you don't teach creationism along with it, you distort it and propogate your own liberal position.
Hi,
I haven't responded to specific questions, to "prove" points, as others seem to really like doing. They have time to sit at their computer all day; I don't.
Facts about certain issues can be found anywhere on the web, and not worth the time to re-print, or research by me. If anyone has any questions about what someone else states, they can research it themselves on the web; find out if what is stated is really true or not; whether it's any of my statements, or statements others make.
It is your right to use words such as "assinine comments", or any other definitive words. One has to realize though, that we all have opinions.
It doesn't work that way, in my opinion. One should not make statements unless one is prepared to prove, support and defend them when challenged. If they can't, they need to retract them. Its not up to other people to research your statements its up to you to back them up. What you fail to realize is that much of the time that a statement is challenged its because the challenger HAS researched and found no basis for the statement being challenged.
I do not make any statement that I am not prepared to backup. There may be times I find that I can't back up what I've said, though that is rare. But in such cases I will retract what I've said.
In the past, you have accused me of making up rules, but this seems to be what you are doing here. In all my experience, the burden has always been on the individual to back up their statements not the challenger.
There is also the issue of once you enter a discussion you need to be prepared to follow through. This is why I usually don't get involved in things likes. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. But if you refuse to support or retract what you say, then it is you who appears the fool.
Obviously you don't know what science is. If we define Biology it's the life processes or characteristic phenomena of a group or category of living organisms, including their structure, function, growth, origin, evolution, and distribution. Creationism teaches this along with evolution, just from two different points of view. Evolution. by the way, is not the most solid theory. If you don't teach creationism along with it, you distort it and propogate your own liberal position.
Ok time to take a breath and get off your high horse !
How can creationism be taught as a SCIENCE when it is based TOTALLY on faith ?
At least Evolution is a Theory and untill it is disproved or updated its the best we have.
Creationism has it place in Religious Studies NOT in science.
Ok time to take a breath and get off your high horse !
How can creationism be taught as a SCIENCE when it is based TOTALLY on faith ?
At least Evolution is a Theory and untill it is disproved or updated its the best we have.
Creationism has it place in Religious Studies NOT in science.
Straight from the dictinoary:Biology it's the life processes or characteristic phenomena of a group or category of living organisms, including their structure, function, growth, origin, evolution, and distribution
ID does all of this. If you don't like it you can write webster and tell him he's wrong.
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