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Jan 13, 2009, 10:00 AM
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| | | Calling Al Gore: Where are you? "BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) - Residents of the upper Midwest bundled up or just stayed inside Tuesday as a wave of bitterly cold air barreled south out of the Arctic, following on the heels of a fast-moving blizzard.
Some schools closed because of the cold and temperatures hit the single digits as far south as Kansas and Missouri.
The coldest air spilled across the Canadian prairie into the Dakotas and Minnesota. Grand Forks, N.D., dropped to a record low of 37 degrees below zero Tuesday morning, lopping six degrees off the old record set in 1979, the National Weather Service said.
In northern Minnesota, it was 35 below zero in Roseau and 36 below in Hallock, with wind chills down to 45 below in Hibbing. Just to the north, Winnipeg, Saskatchewan, also hit minus 36, according to Environment Canada.
In North Dakota, the Minot area got 6 inches of snow, on top of about a foot that fell late last week, and Bismarck collected 4. Bismarck, Fargo and Grand Forks all broke snow records for December, each with more than 30 inches." Sharp cold wave shocks upper Midwest, temps to -36 | | | | | | |
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Jan 13, 2009, 10:42 AM
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| While my mind is not yet made up on what all factors are contributing to climate change, local weather anomalies mean nothing by themselves, and are a fractional indicator of what is happening on a global scale. |
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Jan 13, 2009, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JSingle911 While my mind is not yet made up on what all factors are contributing to climate change, local weather anomalies mean nothing by themselves, and are a fractional indicator of what is happening on a global scale. | Upon what factors have you determined that "climate change" is other than an 'anomly'? Couldn't it be a convenient lie? |
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Jan 13, 2009, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by George_1950 Upon what factors have you determined that "climate change" is other than an 'anomly'? Couldn't it be a convenient lie? | Climate change, as I see it, refers to any change in the global climate, whether by man or natural forces. So when I refer to it, I refer to the last 6 billion years of meteorological changes the Earth has undergone. Whether we are at fault for or contribute to any change in the actual climate of the Earth is precisely what I hold in question. I will never underfund research into issues that might affect us. Lots of bogus theories and "hoaxes" have turned out to be true, and many we thought were true turned out to be false. I am confident that the answers will come in time, while there is still time to do something about it (or not do anything, depending on what the situations calls for). But only if our best minds work on the issue. |
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Jan 13, 2009, 12:21 PM
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| Very cold in North America this winter doesn't mean someone isn't sweating their nuts off somewhere else to a greater degree.
When the ice caps start melting, there is cause for concern. Call it what you will, Global Warming or Earth Cycles, it certainly warrants continued investigation.
I grew up in Toronto back in the 60's and I remember snow being on the ground for months, because it wouldn't melt; the temps stayed under freezing for a long period of time. Also there were outdoor skating rinks where the ice would stay frozen for a couple of months. However, over the years the snow melted within weeks, then days and the outdoor ice rinks are a thing of the past as the ice melts to often.
I have see and felt this climate change in the Toronto area; I knew about warmer winters over time from my personal experience long before I ever heard of climate change.
Yet now it's happening on a massive scale, the northwest passage for the first time may or is passable in the winter without ice breakers. Greenland is losing it's ice a record rates.
I don't see why the 'right' wants to politicize this other than the fact that they think it will force us to loose our competitive edge against countries that couldn't give a flying nut about climate change in the pursuit of profit.
We owe it to our kids to look at this seriously and do whatever it takes before our stupidity hurts our planet in ways we can't imagine. |
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Jan 13, 2009, 12:30 PM
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| For the first time in four decades – from Atlantic to Pacific, from Windsor just south of Detroit to Ellesmere Island, just south of the polar icecap – all of Canada experienced a white Christmas this year .. |
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Jan 13, 2009, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55 For the first time in four decades – from Atlantic to Pacific, from Windsor just south of Detroit to Ellesmere Island, just south of the polar icecap – all of Canada experienced a white Christmas this year .. | I certainly hope it continues, because I really miss Canada being white and cold at Christmas.
I really hope you are right and the trend is now reversing itself and Al Gore and all like him were wrong.
However, I will reserve judgement for 5 more years and see if the nice cold Canadian winters return. |
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