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Jan 13, 2009, 10:00 AM
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| | | Calling Al Gore: Where are you? "BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) - Residents of the upper Midwest bundled up or just stayed inside Tuesday as a wave of bitterly cold air barreled south out of the Arctic, following on the heels of a fast-moving blizzard.
Some schools closed because of the cold and temperatures hit the single digits as far south as Kansas and Missouri.
The coldest air spilled across the Canadian prairie into the Dakotas and Minnesota. Grand Forks, N.D., dropped to a record low of 37 degrees below zero Tuesday morning, lopping six degrees off the old record set in 1979, the National Weather Service said.
In northern Minnesota, it was 35 below zero in Roseau and 36 below in Hallock, with wind chills down to 45 below in Hibbing. Just to the north, Winnipeg, Saskatchewan, also hit minus 36, according to Environment Canada.
In North Dakota, the Minot area got 6 inches of snow, on top of about a foot that fell late last week, and Bismarck collected 4. Bismarck, Fargo and Grand Forks all broke snow records for December, each with more than 30 inches." Sharp cold wave shocks upper Midwest, temps to -36 | | | | | | |
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Jan 15, 2009, 09:19 AM
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| Ex - I must take exception to your statement: The naysayers, however, make no sense at all. They just deny, deny, deny...
I believe that several of us Rightys have offered valid proposals, facts, and reasoned arguments in support of our position. I would like you to point out errors of fact or logic that I and others have made. Merely stating that we all endorse polution, are Exxon stockholders, have no entrepreneural spirit, offer no alternatives, and merely deny, just does not cut it. Please provide but one concrete rebuttal to a point made by me or another.
However, both of us agree that Sheriff Joe of AZ is a loon.  |
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Jan 15, 2009, 09:49 AM
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| Maybe none of this even matters because we just may be living in a giant hologoram.  |
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Jan 15, 2009, 10:41 AM
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| IFL: Inauguration Will Produce 575 MILLION Pounds of CO2! Quote:
Everyone knows the new administration will be the greenest in modern times. But you might not know how un-green the Inauguration is going to be. The Institute For Liberty scratched together some rough figures for illustrative purposes, and our new analysis Carbon Bigfoot finds:
Celebrities, politicians, and bigwigs using 600 private jets will produce 25,320,000 POUNDS of CO2
Personal vehicles could account for 262,483,200 POUNDS of CO2
In the parade, horses alone will produce more than 400 POUNDS of CO2
The total carbon footprint for the Inauguration will likely exceed 575 million POUNDS of CO2
It would take the average U.S. household 57,598 years to produce a carbon footprint equal to that of the new president’s housewarming party
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Jan 15, 2009, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx | If those private jets weren't going to Washington, they would likely have been flying to the Caribbean or some other exotic resort to escape the recent Global Cooling  . I find it funny that they produce numbers like that but don't explain that almost all of what they quote would be producing a carbon footprint if they were at the Inauguration or not.
I mean, how are the horses going to produce anymore carbon footprint in the parade than they would back in the stable?  |
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Jan 15, 2009, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx | I've been trying to change my holographic program for years  |
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Jan 15, 2009, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasParent If those private jets weren't going to Washington, they would likely have been flying to the Caribbean or some other exotic resort to escape the recent Global Cooling  . I find it funny that they produce numbers like that but don't explain that almost all of what they quote would be producing a carbon footprint if they were at the Inauguration or not.
I mean, how are the horses going to produce anymore carbon footprint in the parade than they would back in the stable?  | Maybe, but what about putting your money where your global warming mouth is? All that talk is that much harder for us sekptics to buy when they don't walk the walk.  |
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Jan 15, 2009, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx Maybe, but what about putting your money where your global warming mouth is? All that talk is that much harder for us sekptics to buy when they don't walk the walk.  | Now if everyone rode their bike to the event, I would be impressed  |
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Jan 16, 2009, 06:31 AM
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| Maybe they could at least offer us a good fake attempt… Quote: |
Early this morning, Congressman-Elect Eric Massa departed his hometown of Corning, New York to be sworn into the 111th Congress on Tuesday. Massa will arrive for his formal swearing-in on Tuesday morning, but the 282 mile journey in a GM Electric Fuel Cell Equinox went off without a hitch.
| Without a hitch except for one minor detail… Quote:
A hydrogen fuel cell car driven by U.S. Rep. Eric Massa to Washington, D.C on Monday didn’t actually get him all the way there.
Massa had to be in the nation’s capital Tuesday for his swearing in as the 29th Congressional District’s new representative. He drove the General Motors Equinox prototype car to draw attention to the technology, some of which is being developed in the district.
The problem is the car can go about 150 to 200 miles without a refill, and the trip from Corning to Washington, D.C. is 282 miles. And there are no hydrogen refilling stations along the way.
As a result, Massa had to switch to another GM hydrogen fuel cell vehicle that was standing by in Harrisburg.
After the trip, both cars were towed back to their original locations by two Chevrolet Tahoe hybrid SUVs.
| It would have cost me about $14.00 to drive my Corolla the 282 miles. I wonder what it took to drive 2 fuel cell vehicles there and tow them back behind two hybrid SUV’s? |
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Jan 16, 2009, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx Maybe they could at least offer us a good fake attempt…
Without a hitch except for one minor detail…
It would have cost me about $14.00 to drive my Corolla the 282 miles. I wonder what it took to drive 2 fuel cell vehicles there and tow them back behind two hybrid SUV’s? | Judge libs by their intentions, not their results. |
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Jan 16, 2009, 07:42 AM
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| Hello again, righty's:
I'm just not sure you guys are using the right standards to measure people or to call them hypocrits...
You can drive your SUV because you don't believe in global warming, so you can't be called a hypocrite.... But, if any of those people who BELIEVE in global warming DON'T ride their bike to work, THEY'RE hypocrits.... And, if they're RICH, you STILL expect 'em to walk.
I dunno. As soon as the infrastructure becomes available for people to readily use, people who fly their own planes aren't hypocrites.
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