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Asked Nov 7, 2006, 08:57 AM — 24 Answers
Hello,

I am the one that poilice gave me ticket "OFFENCE NOTICE", Municipality ottawa, and the part of "are request to appear in court"in the ticket is empty, + from the mall security, they gave me a notice of "PROHIBITING ENTRY" TRESPASS TO PROPERTY ACT for one year.
I have not received any letter yet, he said that it is just my penalty.

answer my quewstions since I feel shy to go and see a lawer face to face, even a free one

1. Where is it recorded? I have to get my security clearance as soon as possible for a job offer ( I have no job for a year), the problem is I have to get the security clearance to get a contract job for the Government. Do you think this black history is/will ever show in any degree of security clearance (enhanced and etc)?

2. How can I resolve the problem of "Trespass to property act"? I will give the penalty in other way, financialy or the otherway, I just need to celan this mess ASAP, it is killing me and my health does not let me to be stable. This mall is located where it is not impossible I do not pass, whenever I go out with friends family, we have to pass, I can npot ask people to change their ways and it will be so embarrassing to stop me in front of others.

3. Who will have access to my file, is it possible I will drop it one day and clean my mess totally.

4. Since this mall is a short cut and I go there very often, is it possible after this accident they look at their past camera records and because they see me very often, they will be suspected of my previous shoplifting ( I have not done any before), then the police come and arrest me at home. Or in such case they will send me a notice to appear? Calrify this

Please reply to my questions,

Thanks a lot
Natalija

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Nov 7, 2006, 09:44 AM


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answer my quewstions since I feel shy to go and see a lawer face to face, even a free one
Hello again, natalija:

That IS the answer to your questions. Nobody can tell you about your security clearance. AND, if you're not willing to help yourself, by seeing a lawyer, even if you're shy, then you're not going to get much more help here.

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Nov 7, 2006, 11:04 AM


1) its not clear enough where or whether this was recorded.
2) Trespass means entering on the premises, not going by it. It means you can't enter the mall shopping area for 1 year.
3) See 1. At the very least Mall Security has a file on your.
4) If they note that you have entered the mall premises after being issued a ban on doing so, they can prosecute further.

What it appears like at this point, is you got caught shoplifting, the police may have issued you a dummy ticket as a scare tactic or maybe you mistook a Mall Rent-a-cop for a real police officer. You were also banned from coming to that mall for a year.

So what you do is stay out of the mall and wait for further developments.
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Nov 7, 2006, 11:29 AM
Thanks what is .... Wait for further developments." I will pay the ticket 65 dollars. By the way, really police came, but he just gave me a ticket OFFENCE NOTICE, not appear in the court.
And also the security of the mall gave me a Trespass.

What can I do that it does not show in my security clearance in the future? How long should I wait and apply for security clearance. On my bad luck, I have a chance to get a year contract job in the government, if I have my security clearance in hand. I asked policve about it, he said it does not show, but I am scared , I want to know whether it does not show for sure
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Nov 7, 2006, 11:55 AM


If the officer said it wouldn't show then I wouldn't worry about it. That's what wait for further developments means. Go apply for your security clearance. If the incident DOES show up, the worst that can happen is you don't get the job.
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Nov 7, 2006, 12:08 PM
He told me it does not show, but he did not tell them the details. He did not tell which security level. If I do not get the job for thsi reason, so I won't be able to get a job anymore, because it will be another black history that always they will ask in the future interviews about the reaason of loosing that government job.
My question is , is this ticket that I got ,the same as the ticket for traffic people gets. As bad as that one? "because when I search for "OFFENCE NOTICE", they refer to the traffic "OFFENCE NOTICE , am I right?
Would you let me know 1. About difefrent level of security clearance?
And 2. What can I do to drop the "Trespass to property act" or reduce the lenght. Of course I am not going, but just in case if I have to go one day just when I am not alone. Is there anyweay to replace any other punishment insttead. Whom do I have to request?

Thanks and sorry for asking too much, try to stop asking . Consider this question as a last one and reply to it
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Nov 7, 2006, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by natalija
he told me it does not show, but he did not tell them the details. He did not tell which security level. If I do not get the job for thsi reason, so I won't be able to get a job anymore, because it will be another black history that always they will ask in the future interviews about the reaason of loosing that government job.
My question is , is this ticket that I got ,the same as the ticket for traffic people gets. As bad as that one? "because when I search for "OFFENCE NOTICE", they refer to the traffic "OFFENCE NOTICE , am I right?
Would you let me know
We have told you we can't really answer that. It sounds like it was just a warning or a notice of a fine, not a criminal action.

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1. About difefrent level of security clearance?
And 2. What can I do to drop the "Trespass to property act" or reduce the lenght. Of course I am not going, but just in case if I have to go one day just when I am not alone. Is there anyweay to replace any other punishment insttead. Whom do I have to request?

Thanks and sorry for asking too much, try to stop asking . Consider this question as a last one and reply to it
Thanks
Don't know anything able levels of security clearance. It could be just a check to make sure you are loyal or it could make sure you have never had a run in with the law. We don't know.

As I've said, there is nothing you can do to drop the Trespass ban. You can contact the Mall ownership and plead your case, but I suspect it will fall on deaf ears. I'm sure there are other stores in your area where you can shop at or people who can do the shopping for you.
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Nov 7, 2006, 01:54 PM
Hello

Suppose this ticket is just a warning or a notice of a fine. In the future for travel to us or job applications and etc what shopuld I claim regarding to the following questions


1. Have you been convicted of a crime? 2. Do you have a criminal record? 3. Have you ever been arrested? 4. Have you ever committed a crime?
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Nov 7, 2006, 04:14 PM
1. No, 2. No, 3. Yes, 4. Yes
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Nov 7, 2006, 04:29 PM
Thanks very much.
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