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Sep 17, 2007, 03:19 PM
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| | | Criminal Charges with Confusion Hello MY daughter worked for a grocery retailer as a cahier for over a year. She recently was arrested for stealing money from her register.  The amount was over $1000.00. She was using a supervisors code for returns that the supervisor gave her during a really busy day. The supervisor is not allowed to hand out her code and did not let anyone know she had. The store watched my daughter over a period of weeks 3-4 and let her theft become worse and worse. Instead of changing the code or firing her with her first theft, they just let her keep doing and believe she was getting away with it. Then one day thye had her arrested and charged with two felonies. This is her first offense and she may only have to do probation and fines, but doesnt the store have any responsibility for letting this continue when they could have stopped it?  thanks  | | | | | | |
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Sep 17, 2007, 07:50 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by rfrank41 but doesnt the store have any responsibility for letting this continue when they could have stopped it? | Hello frank:
Nope.
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Sep 17, 2007, 07:58 PM
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| Nope, they did not make her or tell her to steal, It is often commom practice to watch and gather more evidence. This is often done by police and other business. We did a undercover investigation of a warehouse for 6 months before we had varoius people arrested. |
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Sep 18, 2007, 05:38 AM
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| Thank you I appriciate your honesty.  |
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Sep 18, 2007, 05:42 AM
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Pay to call ScottGem for advice ($.75/min) | I understand you love your daughter and want to protect her. But really, this is grasping at straws. The store is allowed to gather evidence in such a case. Its also allowed to give her enough rope to hange herself.
You should get her an attorney. Its possible you might get the charge reduced IF you can prove the store waited until the thefts had reached a level that would mean a greater crime. |
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Sep 18, 2007, 05:46 AM
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| Hello again, frank:
I answered your question, because that's what you asked. I'm sure you're tying the best for your daughter, but that was the wrong question to ask. You should have asked how best you can help your daughter.
Had you asked, I would have said:
The stores rights notwithstanding, your daughter MAY have the right NOT to be charged or sentenced based upon the LOOOOONG surveillance. She needs a good criminal lawyer, and she should NOT talk with them further.
I'll bet that last piece of advice came a little too late, huh. Bummer.
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Sep 18, 2007, 05:58 AM
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| Thank you very much for all of your answers. It just seems like the employee that gave her the code to use the registers illegally should have some responsiblity to this and the store could have easily changed the code when they knew it had been give out. Instead they just sat there and let her dig herself deeper. I know she is gilty and she has to take responsibility for her actions, I just think the store managers were just as wrong for their actiions. Thanks |
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Sep 18, 2007, 06:13 AM
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Pay to call ScottGem for advice ($.75/min) | The store manager who broke the rules SHOULD be disciplined, but he is not "just as wrong". It is one thing to break the rules and trust an employee with a security code they shouldn't have. That, in NO way, gave your daughter the license to steal. In fact, it should have been just the opposite. She should have been pleased that she was being so entrusted and NOT have betrayed that trust.
So I'm sorry, I just can't see how you can equate breaking store rules with criminal activity.
But I do agree it was unfair (not wrong or illegal) for the store to let her dig herself in deeper. Again, if they did that for the sole reason of jacking up the charges, you might be able to get the charges reduced. But they did have the right to see how far she might go. |
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Sep 18, 2007, 07:01 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by rfrank41 I know she is gilty and she has to take responsibility for her actions, | Hello again, frank:
I also think you're way off base!!! NOT because you're willing to put blame on the store, but because you're willing to throw your daughter to the lions.
You started off by saying she probably will only have to do probation and fines, but I think you're making that up. I think you have NO idea what your daughter is facing. I doubt you'll hire a lawyer for her. That's a shame.
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Sep 18, 2007, 07:06 AM
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| Excuse me but I posted for some simple advice not insults and I never once said my daughter was not at fault and if I had the money I sure would hire an attorney, but again don't put the blame on someone else because she is the guilty party. I would help her any way I could and I really don't like the idea of you insinuating that I would not help her. Your looking for a fight or what. I said thank you to everyone for the comments and that I was just looking for advice, why your all the sudden attacking me is beyond my comprehension, I have enough worries about this situation without someone telling me that I am a horrible mother and won't hire an attorney. Do you have any clue how much a crimminal attorney cost these days . I really don't have that kind of money and no one works for free. |
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