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oscarb1 · Mar 24, 2014, 09:33 AM

Can they put someone on sex offender rules by going off there juvenile record if they get put on papers as an adult for something that is not even related to sex offense

AK lawyer · Mar 24, 2014, 09:35 AM

In general, no.

But it would depend upon which state or country in which this person is located.

smoothy · Mar 24, 2014, 09:38 AM

What exactly is "jovnile reked as adlat".

oscarb1 · Mar 24, 2014, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by AK lawyer

In general, no.

But it would depend upon which state or country in which this person is located.

This person is in Racine, Wisconsin.

oscarb1 · Mar 24, 2014, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

What exactly is "jovnile reked as adlat".

I apologize. I meant to say can they put someone on sex offender rules as an adult if the sex case was when they were a juvenile?

AK lawyer · Mar 24, 2014, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

What exactly is "jovnile reked as adlat".

I'm guessing it means "juvenile (something) as adult".

But if the offense was "not even related to sex offense", the answer would be "of course not". Further explanation is needed.

smoothy · Mar 24, 2014, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by oscarb1

I apologize. I meant to say can they put someone on sex offender rules as an adult if the sex case was when they were a juvenile?

Was the sex offense charged as an adult... or as a minor. Yes minors can be and are at times tried as adults. And what was it?

oscarb1 · Mar 24, 2014, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by AK lawyer

I'm guessing it means "juvenile (something) as adult".

But if the offense was "not even related to sex offense", the answer would be "of course not". Further explanation is needed.

They got a 4th degree sex offense as a juvenile when they were 14. The reason being having sex as a juvenile. That same person got into trouble as an adult for an unrelated offense. The person is on probation. The probation officer is now using their juvenile sex offense case to place that person on sex offender rules. The person was told that they do not have to register as a sex offender, and the adult crime that was committed was not a sexual offense.

oscarb1 · Mar 24, 2014, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Was the sex offense charged as an adult... or as a minor. Yes minors can be and are at times tried as adults. And what was it?

The adult crime was a domestic violence case not a sexual offense case.

smoothy · Mar 24, 2014, 10:24 AM

Was there a probation period for the first offence? If so... has it run its course before the adult charge?

If they were still under probation for the first charge... then yes it could be brought back up as a violation.

If the first charge and its probation period expired before the adult charge... then no it shouldn't. Domestic violence is not a sex crime.

oscarb1 · Mar 24, 2014, 10:34 AM

Probation was given for the first offense and completed. The person was not on probation when the second offense occurred.

smoothy · Mar 24, 2014, 10:37 AM

In that case everything is based on the last charge... which is domestic violence... which isn't a sex crime. Therefore shouldn't be required to sign up on the sex offenders registry.

oscarb1 · Mar 24, 2014, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

In that case everything is based on the last charge... which is domestic violence... which isn't a sex crime. Therefore shouldn't be required to sign up on the sex offenders registry.

Does that also mean that the person's probation officer shouldn't have them on sex offender rules? The person isn't registered and doesn't have to be registered. As of now, the person is not allowed near many public places due to the rules that the probation officer has placed them on. The person also has to participate in a group for sex offenders.

smoothy · Mar 24, 2014, 11:02 AM

It might be wise for that person to talk with their lawyer and let the lawyer resolve this issue.

AK lawyer · Mar 24, 2014, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by oscarb1

Does that also mean that the person's probation officer shouldn't have them on sex offender rules? ...

No. Probation officers normally have wide latitude regarding probation requirements. The PA's rules are not necessarily the same as whatever you mean (presumably statutory requirements) by "sex offender rules".