My husband was accused of stealing $4000 from his job. What can I do?

Illusion · Jun 3, 2007, 04:10 AM

It sounds like you are very upset over this whole thing - as I would be. Your husband's boss is very unreasonable - his whole premise that "someone" has to pay back the $4000 is absurd. If the money was stolen - and obviously it was - then he needs to file a complaint with the police. The police could then interview everyone. However, he has no proof of your husband taking the money. How would he prove it? Does he have fingerprints? Does he have a video? Did someone else see your husband and tell him? If so, who and when? What evidence does he have against your husband? He has no proof that your husband did anything wrong. He cannot be judge and jury here. He has scared your husband into submission by telling him he could get 20 years or even be arrested.

It is not this man's decision of who should get arrested and how or when or even to decide that a crime has been committed. The police make that determination. He is also not a Judge in a Court of law to decide that the punishment is 20 years. This guy sounds like a real bully.

It appears he knows your husband will not stand up for himself and is taking advantage of him. Your husband must find another job and move on. Do not wait. This is terribly abusive of this man to do this after your husband has been a good, dedicated employee. If he is going to accuse your husband of a crime, then he must provide proof. So far, he has made accusations only. Is it possible you can consult with an attorney at a Legal Aid office - just to ask advice on this situation? Would you be afraid to talk to the police and explain the situation, the threats this man is making? Would you be afraid to ask for advice on how you should handle this?

Basically what this man is doing is blackmailing your husband into paying back money he did not take. He is extorting money through fear. This is a crime. He cannot take the law into his own hands.

If he was robbed then why hasn't he called the police? Why hasn't he filed a police report? How is it possible that he wants his money back but has asked for no proper investigation? People who have been robbed have an urgent need to find out what happened, they don't just make accusations and demand that "someone" give them their money back.

Of course this is scary, this man is terrorizing your husband, his life, his future. Be of good heart, you need courage now. Your husband needs to get out of this job. It sounds like you have enough to defend yourself and that the law would be on your side.

I will pray for you and ask that all works out in your favor.

brandy681 · Jun 3, 2007, 09:27 AM

I appreciate your advice... Today my boss called my husband back to work for him but I don't know what my husband is going to do and what games this guy is playing. My husband said that he thought that he may do this. He called this morning and said that he wants him to come back to work and that he will charge my husband all of his pay check $500-$600 until it is paid off in two months. I told my husband to not dare pay him back or come back to work! I heard them discussing it on the phone and my husband said that he is very irrisponsible in keeping up with money and my husband said that his boss told him that he would look in to the money situation and his paperwork to see if there is a mistake. My husband thinks that his boss is also mad because someone recently won a lot of money on the machiene the other day, his boss pays out money on the machines which is suppose to be illegal here in GA now but a lot of gas stations don't care and pay out cash anyway and someone won $3,000 on a machiene, right before that someone rigged the machiene and stole money also and his boss is very upset about it. My husband wasn't on the job when that happened though or he would have to pay that also even though it wasn't his fault that someone rigged the machiene to win and I don't even know how this was done. This is how I know that he is a mean person!... My husband is honest, there has been times on rare occassion where people have run off with gas while my husband was on the job and my husband pays the money out of his on pocket but if he didn't his boss would make him pay it back anyway I am sure of it. I am thinking that his boss is angry because he recently lost money on the machines and is trying to take it ot on my husband and I am so angry at him and now especcially that he wants my husband to come back and work to use him.

Fr_Chuck · Jun 3, 2007, 09:57 AM

There is not proff, the police can not arrest him without some proof, your husband needs to leave there and go to work somewhere else. Also if he stays and the owner tries not to pay him, he needs to sue them for his pay, and report them to the dept of labor. They can not legally just take his pay.

And he needs to report the machine to the authorities, since he is helping with illegal gambling by working there and paying out when someone wins anything. ( not a good witness for anyone in church work)

Your husbands boss is a crook, obvioius from the gambling machines and the threats of his workers, he just needs to move on to somewhere else to work.

Illusion · Jun 3, 2007, 08:57 PM

I agree he needs to sue this man for his pay if he should this. Also, this man needs to be reported to the Better Business Bureau and the Labor Commission. There are State laws protecting employees from this type of harassment.

It is just abusive what this guy is doing.

RubyPitbull · Jun 4, 2007, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by brandy681

I am thinking that his boss is angry because he recently lost money on the machines and is trying to take it ot on my husband and I am so angry at him and now especcially that he wants my husband to come back and work to use him.

Brandy, in case you need a third voice on this, I am chiming in. The above quote from you is very important.

All of a sudden, after 3 years "boss" is accusing your husband of stealing? AND, he never went to the police to report the missing money? Do everything you can to dissuade your husband from agreeing to go back to work for him and paying him a penny. I believe that he is looking to your husband to replace money that he himself took from the business. He needs to balance his books now and is looking for an escapegoat. Tell your husband, please, walk away from this NOW. If he doesn't, he will be working for free for quite a while. It will also show the bossman that he can push your husband around, and will keep intimidating him. I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of how ever many months that it will take to pay this absurd request off, that more money will come up missing or he will attempt to convince your husband that he is wrong about how much he has paid back and still owes him.

What the boss is doing is illegal and is akin to creating an indentured servant situation. You husband needs to know that the boss cannot do ANYTHING to him. Those are empty threats. The police will not look too kindly on a man that never reported money missing. The longer he waits to report it, the more he will not be believed. When something like this occurs, honest people go to the police and file a report. They don't intimidate, harass, and threaten employees. That man needs to be stopped in his tracks. It would be very wise to follow the advice of both posters above. Your husband should be filing a lawsuit against this man with the help of your State's Attorney General's office and/or Department of Labor. Your husband won't have to pay for the legal advice. Your husband is owed for whatever work he performed. Tell him to call one of these offices NOW and get advice on how to proceed.

excon · Jun 4, 2007, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by brandy681

I just want to know what is the best thing to do, I feel my husband shouldn't pay a dime to this horrible man but at the same time I am also scared that he will be arrested and will have a record.

Hello brandy:

No, I didn't read it all, because most of it is story, and I don't need the story. I did see several times your mention that your husband wants to lie down for this guy because he doesn't want a record.

Huh?

Uhhhhhh, in this world you GET records when you lie down. You don't AVOID them. Read that again!

I understand some people being meek. I don't understand lying down so you can be trampled - I just don't.

The reason I didn't need the story is because the advice is so simple: He needs to quit his job and hire a lawyer. That's ALL - NOTHING ELSE!

excon

brandy681 · Jun 5, 2007, 03:23 AM

Thanks for all the advice. Today his boss called and basically tried to bargain with him to come back to work and said that he would still pay him $100 a week and then take all the rest out of his pay, which would take about 3 months or a little longer to pay off. That is totally crazy because my husband works 70 hrs a week and is the hardest worker there. There is one other guy that works there part time and the boss himself also works some too.

I told my husband the exact same thing that I reviewer said. I told him that if he continued to work for this guy and pay him off then afterwards more money would become missing and he would keep owing the guy. This is crazy, but true! The guy that owns the store is only like 28 years old and is younger than my husband and he owns the gas station and their is a chicken run located next door/ connectd to the store that he partially owns but he doesn't manage money there and also a brand NEW game room next door that he partially owns and it is a game room that has poker tables and slot machienes... But again he doesn't manage the money from there either but I think he gets a percentage of profits.

Since my husband is the main worker at the gas station, he is using him so that he doesn't have to pay anyone.. Accept one other employee but again he only works part time. Like I said the owner is 28 and has owned the store since he was 24 and he is rich, owns several almost new cars and a home, etc and for a 24 year old indian man I guess he gets rich off of using people and illegal gambling.

I have only saw his boss twice and he is mean, his attitude is horrible. I remember the first time I walked into the store and my husband introduced me and I said hi nice to meet you, he didn't say anything at ALL and always has a "mad" face constantly and my husband even sais that he don't ever smile. My husband told me that customers complain to him about the boss's mean and snobby attitude..My husband on the other hand is totally opposite of this and is very friendly to everyone.

He also has nothing to do with the gambling or the NEW game room next door but of course he knows what is going on. I think my husband should get him in trouble for that if he tries to extort money from my husband! I keep telling this to my husband but all he sais is that he will be punnished and that God will punish him eventually for what he is doing. I tell him the same thing over and over and he sais the same thing, that he will be punnished and and for me not to worry but at the same time he is worrying. I really feel bad for him because I am more angry than anything and I have to watch him worry about this. He is a good person and don't deseerve this, I hate the guy for this and for his whole stuck up attitude. I am trying to look in to a a lawyer because my husband is doing nothing about it but just ignoring the situation.. I am basically trying to see what a lawyer will say because we don't have the money to hire one.

I honestly don't know how someone with so much money that is doing well in the business can be so greedy and evil... There would be days that my husband would come home and tell me how busy it was at the store and he would tell me how the boss would always complain about money issues and customers, etc. How can someone that has so much money complain so much and try and steal money. He is never happy + he has so much money so why would he try and steal it from my husband who works hard for his money. If you met the guy you would not believe that there are people in the world like him! I hope that we never have to see him or deal with him again.. I still do not know what my husband is going to do about this and he hasn't told me anything else. He doesn't know that I wrote this blog but I do appreciate everyone's opinion on this. Thanks

LadyB · Jun 5, 2007, 04:52 AM

Are equivalent paying jobs scarce in your area? Why would he continue to work for a crook and a liar and an illegal gambling hall owner...or even consider for one minute paying back money he didn't take and may not even be missing?

He needs to quit, and get another job, and call the state labor board and Attorney General about the multitude of crimes you have described here...extortion, defamation, gambling. Anything else is collusion.

mr.yet · Jun 5, 2007, 05:14 AM

Call the Labor Commission in your state, file a formal complaint, speak to an attorney today.

If a crime has been committed, than the owner should file charges, It sound like he has no proof.

My husband was accused of stealing $4000 from his job. What can I do?

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