Ask Experts Questions for FREE Help!
  Advanced
Register  |  Log in  
   Ask    
 Answer  
  Help  

Ask QuestionsprogressAnswer QuestionsprogressBuild ReputationprogressBecome an Expert
 
Free Answers in 3 Easy Steps

Register Now
3 Steps

At Ask Me Help Desk you can ask questions in any topic and have them answered for free by our experts. To ask questions or participate in answering them you must register for a free account. By registering you will be able to:
  • Get free answers from experts in any of our 300+ topics.
  • Accept money for answers that you provide.
  • Communicate privately with other members (PM).
  • See fewer ads.

Home > Money & Services > Credit   »   Oral Agreement

 
Question Tools Search this Question Display Modes
Question
 
 
#1  
Old Nov 7, 2006, 04:51 PM
musthavebeenfate
New Member
musthavebeenfate is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1
musthavebeenfate See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.
Oral Agreement

I moved out of province, and had to sell everything. A friend of mine agreed to pay for a bedroom suite, in 5 payments. She made 2 payments, and will not answer my calls, or emails. It is not a large amount that she owes me. Yet I feel very jilted. I need all I can get to start my new life. Is there anything I can do??

Reply With Quote
 
     

Answers
 
 
Old Nov 10, 2006, 01:17 PM   #2  
posheak
Junior Member
posheak is offline
 
posheak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 51
posheak See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.
There's an old saying. "Verbal agreements aren't worth the paper they're printed on."
But it cuts both ways. She can't prove that she paid you, either.
If you still have receipts of purchase, then they are still yours, and you can claim that you just lent them to her.

Well you say province, so I assume you live in Canada? If you are in the Anglo-American world of jurisprudence there is a thing called the Statute of Frauds. The version in the US says that contracts for sale of goods valued over $500 must be in writing. I assume Canada has the same rule since we here inherited from England. That said, you never said how much she agreed to pay, but if over 500 this could cause you a problem, 'cause if there is no writing there is no contract under this rule. If the value is under $500, my question is how did she pay the two installments? If you gave a receipt or have check number, you can sue her, have a court subpoena her cancelled checks from the bank, you will have provided the dates, amounts and check numbers and if the cancelled checks reflect payments you will have evidence of the agreement. If you have any writings or any witnesses to the deal you can prove its existence through them.

The costs of filing the suit are recoverable as part of the judgment.
  Reply With Quote
 
     
 
 
Old Nov 10, 2006, 07:59 PM   #3  
CaptainForest
Finance & Accounting Expert
CaptainForest is offline
 
CaptainForest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,658
CaptainForest See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.CaptainForest See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.CaptainForest See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.CaptainForest See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.
posheak,

To the best of my knowledge, contracts do NOT have to be in writing if over a certain amount.

Certain types of contracts must be in writing though, such as a contract for land, etc.

An oral contact in this case is perfectly legal.

The hard part is proving it.


musthavebeenfate,

If it is not for a lot of money, perhaps it would be easier to just drop it, and learn from this experience.

Or, you can take this person to small claims court.

The lesson you should learn is never sell your furniture on an instalment plan, especially if you are moving out of province, or at the very least, get it in writing.

Comments on this post
Dr D agrees: My old Business Law text from 1971 doesn't have a $ amount for the the Statute of Frauds to kick in.
  Reply With Quote
 
     
 
 
Old Nov 11, 2006, 07:57 AM   #4  
posheak
Junior Member
posheak is offline
 
posheak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 51
posheak See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.
There isn't much you can do without a written agreement. If you have some record of the first two payments you might be able to take her to small claims court but then you would have to do it locally so that might not work for you.
  Reply With Quote
 
     
 
 
Old Nov 14, 2006, 01:25 PM   #5  
wildcatgirl
Junior Member
wildcatgirl is offline
 
wildcatgirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 73
wildcatgirl See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.
I disagree--the 3 parts of a legal contract are goods being traded, offer, and acceptance. A written contract just helps states "what, when, and how" and helps protect each other's rights. The fact that the roommate already paid 2 payments shows the acceptance of the goods and one would have a ligimate small claims court case.
  Reply With Quote
 
     
 
 
Old Nov 15, 2006, 12:35 AM   #6  
CaptainForest
Finance & Accounting Expert
CaptainForest is offline
 
CaptainForest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,658
CaptainForest See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.CaptainForest See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.CaptainForest See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.CaptainForest See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wildcatgirl
The fact that the roommate already paid 2 payments shows the acceptance of the goods and one would have a ligimate small claims court case.


It MIGHT be enough, it NOT be enough. That is for a Judge to decide.

Here is a good valid excuse.

Well, Judge, we agreed to 2 payments of x amount. I made the 2 payments like I was suppose to.

Unfortunately, he truth does not always prevail in a trial.

Look at O.J. Simpson, he was found not guilty at his criminal trial in the murder of his wife and now he is pretty much admitting it.

He is doing a FOX interview that airs on Nov. 27 and 29, called “O.J. Simpson: If I Did It, Here's How It Happened.”
  Reply With Quote
 
     
 
 
Old Nov 15, 2006, 03:11 AM   #7  
wildcatgirl
Junior Member
wildcatgirl is offline
 
wildcatgirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 73
wildcatgirl See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.
LOL!! I really like that analogy!!!
  Reply With Quote
 
     


Question Tools Search this Question
Search this Question:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

 
Similar Sponsors

Similar Questions
Question Asker Topic Answers Last Post
oral contraceptives hedieh Women's Health 4 Jul 6, 2006 12:00 PM
Oral sex question wrappedup Adult Sexuality 11 Feb 16, 2006 10:48 AM
Oral sex elrp2 Adult Sexuality 5 Dec 30, 2005 03:06 PM
Need help -- how to medicate kitten with oral lamisil gmaniax Cats 2 Dec 27, 2005 03:28 AM




Copyright ©2003 - 2007, Ask Me Help Desk.
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:03 PM.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6 © 2006, Crawlability, Inc.