As a gay man and Christian I was told by alot of people that homosexuals will not go to heaven but will go to hell instead. I know that alot of older people believe this and I think that is not true because god love everyone. He would not make homosexuals unless there is a chance of them going to heaven. My question is where (book and chapters) does it say that homosexuals will go to hell or where (book and chapter again) does it said that they will not or does it not say neither?

Fr_Chuck

Have they completely accepted Christ as thier savior?

It is not loving everyone, it is not doing alot of good works, but it is thier love of Christ that matters.

It does say several places that homosexual sex is a sin, some will try and play with words, but it is. But so is alot of other things.

The issue that I have is most do not want to admit it is a sin, and really something that needs to be repented and asked forgivness for.

I know many who have said they have accepted Christ as thier savior, Jesus accepts everyone as they are, no matter what type of sinner we are. And it will be between them personally and God as to if and how he convicts them to change.

So only God knows if they really accepted Christ as thier savior. But I will take them at thier word, so since everyone that has accepted Christ is saved, if they have accepted Christ they are saved.

So to sum it up, the bible says it is a sin, so is adultry, sex outside of marriage, cheating on your taxes, not properly paying your pastor ( is my church reading this) and a ton of other things many people do all the time, Man is a sinner, we all sin, some more than others, but we all sin,
The goal as a saved Chrsitian is to try and live the best life we can, it will never be perfect, since only Christ was perfect.

ineedhelpfast

i agee with what fr said, but if we truly love God then we shouldnt do things that grieve His heart, and i still need God to work on some areas in my life. like fr said were not perfect, but we know what we do is wrong because the Holy spirit convicts us, yet we still keep sinning, guess we'll never be perfect until we go to heaven

Moparbyfar

Rom 1:24-27

1 Tim 1:9-11

Jude 7 (compare Gen 19:4,5,24,25)

1 Cor 6:9-11 this scripture proves that it is possible for anyone, regardless of their previous unclean practices to change their ways and enjoy a clean standing with God.

The good news is that the term "hell" is actually symbolic, and since our grand creator is a God of love (1 John 4:8) does it seem reasonable to you that He would torture man forever? Divne justice?? I think not.

templelane

I was reading this on the news and thought of this thread.
BBC NEWS | Magazine | What does the Bible actually say about being gay?
It seems to be a nice summary of both sides. I thought I would post it up to aid discussion but I won't comment further myself as it is not my place. Hope it helps

RickJ

Being attracted to the same sex is not a sin. For Christians, sex before valid marriage is where the sin is.

Allheart

Hi Brian -

If okay with you, I would like to give you a hug.

Brian, that is up to you and God. Sometimes asking questions such as that, is like asking
a heavy person if you are eating too much and is that why you are overweight??? Does, that make sense?

Please know this, God LOVES YOU!!!!!!!!!! Period and me too. I know a whole lot of Gay people a head of line way before me.

I had sex before I was married (age 21, but still is a sin).

I think each person in God's eyes is unique and He doesn't have us all in groups. Gays over there, Catholics over here, Atheist over there, and so on. He knows you heart.

I know that could be a troubling thought, and we all, have things to work on. I tell you what, I am more afraid for those who so quickly want to condemn someone to hell, then being punished for loving someone.

Is being Gay a sin? I don't know? But I get too annoyed to even hear any reason why it might be because people are so quick to jump the beuatiful Gay community becuae they have issues of ugliness themselves.

It makes me angry as heck (which by the way - anger is a sin) - That anyone on this earth could dare and make another feel so bad about themselves.

Okay my vent is over.

You quietly get on your knees and pray. Talk to God, just like a Father.
I share this with you. Each day, if possible, find some quiet time, where it is just you and God, or just listen to this beautiful video and clear your mind and have peace.

Never ever let others judge you, which by the way is a sin, and may prevent them from going to heaven

More hugs for you.
Allheart



****hugs******

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Moparbyfar

To ineedhelpfast - see my post to Niki143 Why did God make hell?

jammixmaster

Look at it this way: God is SUPPOSSED to be omnipresent (everywhere), omnipotent (all powerful) and omniscient (all knowing). So if he is "all knowing" then he should have known that you and millions of other people would be homosexuals. So if he does throw you into hell that would be his own fault for not using his "all powerful" abilities to make you not be homosexual. If i was God I'd let anyone into heaven who gave me the proper worship and honor. Whether they were gay or not, if you loved me (i'm playing god remember) thats all that would matter. But the Christian god doesn't seem to be like that. You're suppossed to be his child right? well, answer this. If your child was a homosexual, would you throw them into a pit of fire? If so, then you shouldn't be a parent. If not, then why would god do that to his own "children"

Onan

There are a few questionable relationships in the Bible.

I think before anyone answers this question they should do a little research on the relationships between Ruth and Naomi, David and Jonathan, and Danial and Ashpenaz.