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As a gay man and Christian I was told by alot of people that homosexuals will not go to heaven but will go to hell instead. I know that alot of older people believe this and I think that is not true because god love everyone. He would not make homosexuals unless there is a chance of them going to heaven. My question is where (book and chapters) does it say that homosexuals will go to hell or where (book and chapter again) does it said that they will not or does it not say neither?
As a gay man and Christian I was told by alot of people that homosexuals will not go to heaven but will go to hell instead. I know that alot of older people believe this and I think that is not true because god love everyone. He would not make homosexuals unless there is a chance of them going to heaven. My question is where (book and chapters) does it say that homosexuals will go to hell or where (book and chapter again) does it said that they will not or does it not say neither?
Homesexuals will go to hell if they have sex relationship with the same sex. Rome1:23-32
Gay have a place in heaven.. I Tim. 2:4 "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto knoeledge of the truth."
2 Pet 3:9
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
(KJV)
"come unto the knowledge of the truth" includes the concept of "repentence". God forgives sin, but for that to happen there has to be repentance of that sin and a willingness to stop that sin.
It has been well said that attraction to the same sex is not sin until it is acted upon, any more that the temptation to steal is not sin unless the intent is there to carry it out.
Free advice is just that; free. If you really want to be right with God, accept what He says and ask Him to give you the strength to become what He has in mind for you, and that is that you eventually become like His Son.
Hey guys thinks alot for the posts. I would just like to say that I read some quotes from a post (by Moparbyfar) saying that being gay is wrong in the bible. Are there any quotes saying it is right to be gay? I know in my heart that god loves me althrough I am gay I am just looking to see what the bible has to say. Can any answer my question?
If there were scriptures proving that gays ARE accepted in the bible, don't you think God would be contradicting himself, since you've already seen the proof of gays, lesbians etc being a gross sin? Of course God loves you, thats the whole reason why he gave his precious son as a sacrifice for us ALL. The best way we can all show God that we love him in return is by fighting off our sinful tendencies to be found favorable in His eyes.
Sure, people say that being gay is not a choice, that it is in their genetic make-up, but this is also true of some alcoholics but with the right motivation, they can avoid drinking and lead a clean, sober life.
I truly believe that homosexuality can be avoided as proof of an American actor who changed his 'full homosexual" ways and became a minister of God (I have just finished reading this account) shows.
The question I have for you though, is are you really willing to change to SHOW God how appreciative you are of his ransom sacrifice? Many are clearly not.
As I stated in a early post and then directed it differently in another post
While it is a sin, those that have accepted Christ are no differnent than any other sinner, They are still saved, but are a sinner. Now this is where the big fight normally comes, as with any sin, we should try and stop the sin, jesus as he said to other sinners in the bible when he forgave them, that they are forgiven but to go and sin no more.
And with all sin in our life, we are to admit the sin, to repent of that sin and to ask God to forgive us. So those are normally the issues that the gays I know have, they wish God to re-write the bible so they can remain in thier sin and in fact have that sin declared a prefered way of life.
that it is in their genetic make-up, but this is also true of some alcoholics but with the right motivation, they can avoid drinking and lead a clean, sober life.
C'mon, your comparing homosexuality to a disease?? I don't care who the person is it is always his choice to pick up a bottle. When he becomes addicted it becomes a disease. In most cases with homosexuals, they know early on they like the same sex. It's who they are. They are born that way. You are never born an alcoholic. Asking them to be straight would be like asking me to be gay. I know this is a christian board and I know you feel like your giving this guy good advice, but I cannot sit here and let this guy think there is something wrong with him. When he starts trying to be something he's not, thats when he's got a problem. When you can prove the bible was inspired by god and not man, and that it is without error then you can tell him being gay is a sin. Until then Brian, you just follow your heart and be who you are.
C'mon, your comparing homosexuality to a disease?? I don't care who the person is it is always his choice to pick up a bottle. When he becomes addicted it becomes a disease. In most cases with homosexuals, they know early on they like the same sex. It's who they are. They are born that way. You are never born an alcoholic. Asking them to be straight would be like asking me to be gay. I know this is a christian board and I know you feel like your giving this guy good advice, but I cannot sit here and let this guy think there is something wrong with him. When he starts trying to be something he's not, thats when he's got a problem. When you can prove the bible was inspired by god and not man, and that it is without error then you can tell him being gay is a sin. Until then Brian, you just follow your heart and be who you are.
Not born an alcoholic but born with a gene that leans them toward the likeliness of becoming one.
Is it ok then for people who are 'born with a short fuse' to emotionally and physically abuse others because that's just the way they are?
Imperfection...it's a real bumma, but it doesn't mean to say we let loose with all our "born with it" bad traits and call them acceptable.
Ultimately it is a gays choice to behave the way they do. You say you enjoy reading the bible, so why not read up on the ones that WERE living this way yet CHANGED to please God (1 Cor 6:9-11)...and while you're at it, why don't you prove BEYOND ALL DOUBT that the bible is just a history book with no relevance for today.
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