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Old Mar 18, 2008, 07:37 PM
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Will a gay person go to heaven?

As a gay man and Christian I was told by alot of people that homosexuals will not go to heaven but will go to hell instead. I know that alot of older people believe this and I think that is not true because god love everyone. He would not make homosexuals unless there is a chance of them going to heaven. My question is where (book and chapters) does it say that homosexuals will go to hell or where (book and chapter again) does it said that they will not or does it not say neither?

 
     

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Old Apr 22, 2008, 03:47 PM   #111  
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1 Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

(KJV) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

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effeminate- Having the qualities generally attributed to women, as weakness, timidity, delicacy, etc.; unmanly; not virile

As the Bible says it is not just the homosexual who will not inherit the kingdom of God, anyone who sins and does not repent and turn away from their sin will not inherit the kingdom of God.

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scottyv : Doesnt it also say in 1st Cor. that everything is permissible? I guess its just depends what you want to focus on huh? Didnt Paul also say nothing can separate you from the love of God? Interesting confliction.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Apr 22, 2008, 03:49 PM   #112  
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Ok listen I have alot of gay friends and yes you will go to heaven God does not judge people because of what they like
 
 
     
 
 
Old Apr 22, 2008, 03:57 PM   #113  
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well yes, God does judge people, that is actually what he does do.
And he will look at first who has accepted his Son as thier Saviour and Lord. Those that have accepted Christ will be saved, those that have not will not be.

There are alot of sins, and sex with the same gender is one of those sins. It is no better or worst than other sins, but it is a sin.
We are all sinners the main thing we have to look for first is are we saved.
After that, the saved person would then try and work hard on living thier lives like Christ would have wanted.

So can they be saved, yes, but very few will go to heaven, and that depends on your faith in Christ.

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scottyv : Very few are going to heaven and it depends on acceptance of Jesus? I thought it depended on Gods grace. Hmmmn interesting theology ya got going there.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Apr 22, 2008, 05:35 PM   #114  
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Jdlseslie

The good father seems to part ways with Paul of Tarsus as he [Paul]beleived that nothing can separate a person from the love of God, not even sin (shhhh, dont tell anyone). In Corinthians Paul says that all things are permissable, even though they may not be beneficial or constructive, yet what is important is that we must live for the betterment of others. Either God sent Jesus for the remission of sins or he didnt. Either Jesus paid that price or he didnt. According to the Christian faith you are saved by grace, not yours but gods, to make that conditional upon anything else is bad theology. There is no "if " in grace. God saves by grace only if you accept Jesus?

I doubt your gay freinds have to worry about much as long as they are not going around hurting people. Dont buy into religious people telling you what sin is and that you are going to hell. Thats how they make thier money and friends, its all very silly, like man could ever know the mind of God, its pure hubris.

Peace friend,

Scotty

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talaniman agrees: We can only guess, but God knows.
tomterm8 disagrees: 1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals... shall inherit the kingdom of God."
inthebox agrees: Yes, by Grace! But it has to be BELIEVED John 3:16, John 6:40. Consistent with Paul's Romans 10:9. This is active on our part as sinners. God Bless.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Apr 22, 2008, 05:42 PM   #115  
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Sadly one has to include the entire bibile, which incluldes Jesus telling us to repent from our sin. And if you take the entire New Testement as a whole, one sees that a person who is saved has to have accepted Christ,
they are not saved if they don't, that is the entire theme of the NT.

As for sin, We know that to accept christ we have to repent of our sin, this also is the very words of Christ. So as long as they have admited thier sin, have tried hard to turn from it, and accepted Christ.

But that is the only real issue if they accepted Christ, after they accepted Christ, then it is up to God to convict thier hearts to show them the evil of thier sin and to help them reprent of them.
 
 
     
 
 
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(KJV) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Webster's Dictionary
effeminate- Having the qualities generally attributed to women, as weakness, timidity, delicacy, etc.; unmanly; not virile
So is it only MALE homosexuality that's a sin? Sounds to me like lesbians are off the hook.

Also, what does it mean, "abusers of themselves with mankind"?
 
 
     
 
 
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Sorry, I can't in good consciousness, put the words of ancient man as absolute truth. His prejudices are clear thru his writings, and only thru a personal relationship with the Creator, can we rise above this controversy, and know what the truth really is. Then we do not have to interpret, guess, or believe, what God wants you to do. You will know. Of course a gay person will know the love of a living God, and know what is expected of him, to be a good human.

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scottyv : Come on Tali, that makes too much sense, you are going to confuse people! :]
 
 
     
 
 
Old Apr 23, 2008, 07:15 AM   #118  
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OK, so I have read a lot of different opinions about this topic and I can only comment on what the bible says. I mention the bible because its the only authority you can use to define or explain this topic. I would like to mention you can have an opinion freely but the only authority you can refer to about god (in reference to Christianity)is the bible.

Countless times in the bible from Leviticus, Corinthians, Timothy, Romans, does the bible mention sins of the flesh as they refer to Homosexuality. Each time this is mentioned as a sin pure and simple.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality

It doesn't say hate gays, it doesn't say hate yourself for having those feelings, it doesn't say, it doesn't say..ect...ect..If you are a Christian your bible is your resource for such questions. If you are a Christian you know that their is one way to the father. That is through the acceptance of Jesus Christ as your lord and savior. If you have Christ then your life will be changed and you will see that change evident in all that you do. If you truly wanted to know the answer of this question then the resource you have available to you is the bible. Its the only tool at your disposal regarding the topic of salvation.

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scottyv : Curious, what makes the bible authoritative?
 
 
     
 
 
Old Apr 23, 2008, 07:44 AM   #119  
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I think part of the problem lies in the many translations and interpretations of that piece of scripture; we have seen many in this threads from different posters.

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scottyv : And that is just the begining!
 
 
     
 
 
Old Apr 23, 2008, 07:48 AM   #120  
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If you would like, when I get home I will post you the Greek and Hebrew translations. If you are pulling from most bibles the translations are actually pretty solid.(exceptions always)
 
 
     


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