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Old Mar 18, 2008, 07:37 PM
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Will a gay person go to heaven?

As a gay man and Christian I was told by alot of people that homosexuals will not go to heaven but will go to hell instead. I know that alot of older people believe this and I think that is not true because god love everyone. He would not make homosexuals unless there is a chance of them going to heaven. My question is where (book and chapters) does it say that homosexuals will go to hell or where (book and chapter again) does it said that they will not or does it not say neither?

 
     

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Old Apr 18, 2008, 01:02 PM   #101  
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Very often from the earliest times man wants to do the evil or at times the pleasure of thier hearts and minds. So as it is with homosexual activity, and it is not uncommom for those that want to do it, to justify it with society, with trying to change the word of God, by denying the word of God.

And so as we go into this new century, man has rewritten in many places mans law so that there is less moral values in them, but this does not change the laws of God, only mans enforement of them.

And yes, they want to act like nothing is sin any longer and everyone will be saved no matter what they do.

The issue is yes if Jesus came today, he would talk with, eat with and walk with homosexuals, drunks, hookers and more. He would tell them of his love, he would cure many of thier various sins and he would also forgive them and tell them to go and sin no more, as he did those of his time. With that said that is the part that most don't want to quote and remember is that he wants the sinner he forgives to stop thier sin and repent.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Apr 18, 2008, 01:27 PM   #102  
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A heck of a lot of that depends on which variety of christianity you believe. The vast majority of verses in the old testament which argue against homosexuality are related to paul.

I belong to the church of England, whicn ordanes women to the priesthood, which is also apparently against the law of god, as expressed by Paul.

very many verses of the bible speak directly against judging other people, condeming other people, or naming unclean what God has made clean. i do not believe it is consistent with a loving god to damn people for being what he made them. further, it would render Jesus a liar to do so, for he promised the kingdom of heaven to men and women, whatever their weakness or sin, as long as they ask him for forgiveness, This is much more a central tenant of my christian faith, than whether Paul was right or wrong over homosexuality to my mind.
 
 
     
 
 
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the bible makes it crystal clear that Homosexuality is sin. So he can ask God to deliver him from that sin so that he may be in right standing with God.


I should have paid better attention, I admit, during religious instructions but I thought we were taught that the sin was ACTING on homosexuality, not BEING homosexual.

Of course, at one time if you ate meat on Friday and then dropped dead you had to be buried outside the cemetery fence in the Protestant section so who knows -

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I should have paid better attention, I admit, during religious instructions but I thought we were taught that the sin was ACTING on homosexuality, not BEING homosexual.

Of course, at one time if you ate meat on Friday and then dropped dead you had to be buried outside the cemetery fence in the Protestant section so who knows -

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Homosexuality, is listed as one of the sin in the New Testament. It is not a 'special' sin it is just like any other. It is listed among drunkeness, fornication, Pride, adultery etc in Romans.
 
 
     
 
 
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Homosexuality, is listed as one of the sin in the New Testament. It is not a 'special' sin it is just like any other. It is listed among drunkeness, fornication, Pride, adultery etc in Romans.


So you are saying that according to the New Testament it is a sin to BE homosexual, whether you act on it or not?

And which version of the New Testament?
 
 
     
 
 
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Homosexuality, is listed as one of the sin in the New Testament. It is not a 'special' sin it is just like any other. It is listed among drunkeness, fornication, Pride, adultery etc in Romans.

And that would be what scripture?
 
 
     
 
 
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Yes of course you will go to heaven, you are gay and that is the way you were born you must be proud and not care what other people think or say because they are just close minded. Remember the Bible was written by man not God. And homosexuality has been around forever, it was part of normal life in ancient Greek and Roman times. Hope this helps and God bless!!

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scottyv : I'm sorry, this just makes too much sense. You are in the wrong forum.
 
 
     
 
 
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So you are saying that according to the New Testament it is a sin to BE homosexual, whether you act on it or not?

And which version of the New Testament?

If we apply what Jesus said about adultary then, Yes. Jesus if you just look at another woman and lust after her, then you have already commited adultary. So i assume the same applies to a gay guy who does not have sex with another man but looks lustfully at another man
 
 
     
 
 
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Yes of course you will go to heaven, you are gay and that is the way you were born you must be proud and not care what other people think or say because they are just close minded. Remember the Bible was written by man not God. And homosexuality has been around forever, it was part of normal life in ancient Greek and Roman times. Hope this helps and God bless!!

Homosexuality is definately a sin according to the BIBLE. So it's either you believe the Bible as absolute truth or you don't. There are no Gray areas.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10


9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
 
 
     
 
 
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Homosexuality is definately a sin according to the BIBLE. So it's either you believe the Bible as absolute truth or you don't. There are no Gray areas.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10


9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
Weird, looks like you added words:
1 Corinthians, Chapter 6 (King James Bible) - Christian Answers® WebBible™
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9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Nope, no homosexuals there. Unless you take into account all the various translations and interpretations:
HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE NEW TESTAMENT: CONSERVATIVE AND LIBERAL VIEWS
Which is true for a great deal of the bible so one could twist things to suit their agenda.

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