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As a gay man and Christian I was told by alot of people that homosexuals will not go to heaven but will go to hell instead. I know that alot of older people believe this and I think that is not true because god love everyone. He would not make homosexuals unless there is a chance of them going to heaven. My question is where (book and chapters) does it say that homosexuals will go to hell or where (book and chapter again) does it said that they will not or does it not say neither?
As a gay man and Christian I was told by alot of people that homosexuals will not go to heaven but will go to hell instead. I know that alot of older people believe this and I think that is not true because god love everyone. He would not make homosexuals unless there is a chance of them going to heaven. My question is where (book and chapters) does it say that homosexuals will go to hell or where (book and chapter again) does it said that they will not or does it not say neither?
Brian:
I think if God sent His only Son, to suffer be crucified, and resurrect for a sinner like me, He certainly sent Him for you.
Today in church, John 3 - Jesus talks to Nicodemus, an elite of His chosen people. The next chapter, John 4, Jesus talks to an adulterous Samaritan woman. Think about that, Jesus came for all of us. Luke 5: 31-32 and 23: 39-43.
I think if God sent His only Son, to suffer be crucified, and resurrect for a sinner like me, He certainly sent Him for you.
Today in church, John 3 - Jesus talks to Nicodemus, an elite of His chosen people. The next chapter, John 4, Jesus talks to an adulterous Samaritan woman. Think about that, Jesus came for all of us. Luke 5: 31-32 and 23: 39-43.
Yes i agree but once we have come to Know Christ and what he did for us, He says "Go and sin no more.."
So Yes he did die for Homosexuals too and homosexuality is no greater sin than fornication and adultery however once we know Christ we are to repent and turn away from sin.
So Brian, God loves you but he wants you to obey his word and turn away from homosexuality because it is sin.
I have read a lot of your posts and I know you are smarter than this. I didn't say I had the RIGHT to take life, I said I had the POWER to take life. We all do. No one has the RIGHT, murder is wrong. The power to take life is not reserved for the Gods. You only have to watch the evening news to know this is truth.
I was just trying to emphasise that just because you have the power to take life does not mean you have the right to do so. God does have the right to take life that He freely gave to us.
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The fact that my kids are here is more than enough to prove otherwise. If it weren't for my wife and I, my kids would not be here.
Yes and it is because of the ability that God gave you. A biological process that God put in place allows you to procreate. But that does not mean you have the "created" them. Your wife Just gave birth to what God created using your sperm and her egg.
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Now I will be honest, I'm not much into science but I have read somewhere that humans have succesfully cloned sheep?? If it hasn't been done yet it won't be too long before a human is cloned. If that is the case we will have HUMANS creating LIFE. So whether it be physically or in a lab we have the power to create life.
well lets not jump the gun, no humans have been cloned yet but even so, All they would be doing is taking cells from a human the God created and duplicating them.
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God has no more right to end my kids life than I do. As I said, no one has the right to murder. Murder is wrong. I'm really not understanding how you or anyone else for that matter does not understand murder is wrong.
You cant compare yourself to God, who are you?..lol God created everything, he gave us the life we have and has the right take it from us at His will.
So Brian, God loves you but he wants you to obey his word and turn away from homosexuality because it is sin.
I don't think who we are attracted to can be considered a sin. Our actions are what makes us sinners. Mans law says he can not marry, so he cannot be afforded the same outlets for his love, as the rest of the world. Is that a sin, or is that man putting his restrictions on man? Not to argue, but to understand how we can seperate sin, and make it wrong to be as God has made us?
I don't think who we are attracted to can be considered a sin. Our actions are what makes us sinners. Mans law says he can not marry, so he cannot be afforded the same outlets for his love, as the rest of the world. Is that a sin, or is that man putting his restrictions on man? Not to argue, but to understand how we can seperate sin, and make it wrong to be as God has made us?
the bible makes it crystal clear that Homosexuality is sin. So he can ask God to deliver him from that sin so that he may be in right standing with God.
As a gay man and Christian I was told by alot of people that homosexuals will not go to heaven but will go to hell instead. I know that alot of older people believe this and I think that is not true because god love everyone. He would not make homosexuals unless there is a chance of them going to heaven. My question is where (book and chapters) does it say that homosexuals will go to hell or where (book and chapter again) does it said that they will not or does it not say neither?
sry but no.
When God created ADAM AND EVE, it was a dude and a chick, not a chick and a chick or a dude and a dude. MAN AND WOMAN. I dont have anything agaisnt ya'll, but you asked.
Just know that God loves us all. And each and everyone of us is His child, whom He loves.
We all are human and you just let God be the judge of your heart.
Pray to Him for peace and for His love to always be in your heart, so you can show and share it to others.
You ask an incredible question, which quite honestly, none of us truly know, accept God.
We are going to be judged as individuals, not as groups. Our Heavenly Father has more then enough love for us to do that for us.
So Brian, you are an individual, who loves God and may His Light continue to guide you.
Brian, I am wondering, how do you now feel about things?
I do have great care for you in my heart as I am sure all who have responded to.
As a gay man and Christian I was told by alot of people that homosexuals will not go to heaven but will go to hell instead. I know that alot of older people believe this and I think that is not true because god love everyone. He would not make homosexuals unless there is a chance of them going to heaven. My question is where (book and chapters) does it say that homosexuals will go to hell or where (book and chapter again) does it said that they will not or does it not say neither?
You must bear in mind that Jesus spoke literally nothing about being gay or lesbian. An all-knowing King of Peace and Love obviously knows the true merits of heartfelt Love. Nevertheless, it is Promiscuity that is the sin to avoid in both sexual orientations and the one that can haunt a person until it is vanquished from their life.
For a clearer perspective of this issue, the following websites present a fairly non-biased view.
Note: On the second website, you might want to read "j. Birch" comments also!
Good post Scotty, but the personal attacks on Fr. Chuck, were not necessary, as we all have our opinions. I may not agree with him, or others, but try not to be personal about it. You make some very good points I do agree with though, as a personal relationship with the God you understand, is as important as life, and the choices we make are our own decisions. I also agree that the Bible (Qur'an, Torah, or any other religious book), was written by man, therefore not only open to interpretation, but flawed, by the same men who wrote it. They had good intentions, but had to accede to the times they were in.
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