Will a gay person go to heaven?

Brian24 · Mar 18, 2008, 07:37 PM

As a gay man and Christian I was told by alot of people that homosexuals will not go to heaven but will go to hell instead. I know that alot of older people believe this and I think that is not true because god love everyone. He would not make homosexuals unless there is a chance of them going to heaven. My question is where (book and chapters) does it say that homosexuals will go to hell or where (book and chapter again) does it said that they will not or does it not say neither?

JudyKayTee · Apr 25, 2008, 12:09 PM

[quote=sGt HarDKorE]here is my opinion, just like you should have one. The bible is a book, a great one, but still a book. god did not write it, people wrote it for him. So even back then one may have misinterpreted it. Also, god gave me free choice and a mind of my own. And i know whats right and wrong, would god truly send people to hell for being gay? NO. The bible also says do not eat anything that walks on this earth, and such. People whine about how bad being gay is when they themselves are hypocrites. No where in the bible does it say that being gay is worse than being a cold blooded killer or any other sin. Here are some sins you have broken.

EX 22:29 Firstborn children should be sacrificed to the Lord.

LE 11:7, DT 14:8 Eating pork is prohibited.

LE 11:10 Eating shellfish is prohibited.

LE 19:27 The edges of a beard should not be clipped.

LE 19:28 Tattoos and the like are prohibited.

LE 20:18 If a man has sex relations with a woman who is menstruating, both shall be excommunicated from their people.

I cut out the part of your post I am not addressing but did not change the above in any way.

Some people still do respect these tenants of faith concerning pork, shellfish, beards, tattoos and menstruating women - although the parties are no longer excommunicated, just shunned (in theory). The "firstborn children" refers to the firstborn becoming a member of the clergy, not literally putting them to death in a sacrificial way. Old way for Irish Catholics was for the first born to become a Priest; same in Jewish families, first born "destined" to be a Rabbi.

Please do not assume everyone is Christian; please do not assume "Here are some sins you have broken." No problem if you speak for yourself but please do not speak for others.

talaniman · Apr 25, 2008, 06:13 PM

As a non Christian, I am glad not to be in a position of worrying about salvation, because as a human, its a handful to just live this life, as best a human can, and enjoy the choice that has been granted all humans. Not just Christianity, I would surely have the same problem being led as a sheep, thru any artificial trappings man calls religion. Though we can all stand to learn and improve, we have to pick our way thru this life and be accountable for our own actions as saying that's what god said, is no excuse for bad human behavior and I hope the OP, realizes that when he exercises his own choices, in this human world.

sGt HarDKorE · Apr 25, 2008, 07:30 PM

pope benedict also clearly states that you dont have to believe in god to go to heaven. Just do good deeds

"Whoever seeks peace and the good of the community with a pure conscience, and keeps alive the desire for the transcendent, will be saved even if he lacks biblical faith," says Benedict XVI.

sGt HarDKorE · Apr 25, 2008, 07:45 PM

Here is my proof, ZENIT - Commentary on Psalm 136(137). And not saying your wrong in any way, and im not saying im right, i just want to argue the other side. And altough you say he is teaching wrong, im sorry but hes the next best thing compared to god. And if he says its ok, im going with him.

Fr_Chuck · Apr 25, 2008, 07:57 PM

Quote from link "He sees their service and will show them the other city, toward which they must really long and orient all their effort" ("

So if they do live this good live, God will show them the right city (jersulem) an they must long and oreint thier effort, is also a requirement, it sounds like God will see the person doing good and have the truth of God shown to them and give them the chance to turn to him

But no I do not give 10 cents to any mans commits if they go against the dirct word of jesus in the bible. If this was his intent that non christians would be saved, he also did not make this as a infallable statement as Pope and to be honest it sounds more politicaly made than religiously made. Even the Pope has to answer to God, and he as all ministers are held to a higher standard not to teach wrongly.

talaniman · Apr 25, 2008, 08:12 PM

you have it completely backward, as a Christian I don't have to worry about salvation, because I am saved.
Then neither us is worried.
It is those who are not saved that have all the worry.
It depends on what it is your worried about, I'm busy here and will see what happens on the next level, or not. That not my WORRY!
And to live life as a sheep moving with no goal, purpose or thought of more to come. but yes this is a human world,
My business is here, and now. That is my purpose.
and the Christian is merely a visitor here passing though to get to their home in the world and life to come.
Hope you get home. (But this is the last time I correct your spelling)

Fr_Chuck · Apr 25, 2008, 08:19 PM

You are really correcting your own spelling you know, we got reported by a user that we are the same person.

That must be one split person?????

I can't hardly see the screen, and the hunt and peck, spelling is the last of my worries ( not a listed sin in the bible *LOL)



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