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we got married at her church and now she is suggesting for a baby girl to be baptised at her church but, i kinda want her to have her christining at my church?
this religion thing between us didnt come to my mind at all when i married her. i truly love her but need some advice.
I honeslty dont go to church as much as she does (i stay at home on sundays, while she takes our baby to her church)
I really need some advice on what to do and maybe someone can clear my head on what the difference is..I know it sounds stupid!
Incidentally, there is no Biblical provision for baptizing infants. If you'll notice, everyone that was baptized, according to the Bible, was of a proper age in which they could decide for themselves that they wanted to be dedicated to God. An infant does not have that capacity to make that decision for themselves based on knowledge.
Not only is baptizing an infant not correct, but the method in which it's done is also incorrect. For someone to be baptized, they must be fully immersed in the water, not just have some water sprinkled on their heads. Jesus was fully immersed in the Jordan, and when Philip baptized the Ethiopian eunuch, he was fully immersed under the water as well. Again, nowhere does the Bible say baptism is to be done by any other means.
Some of your "facts" here are incorrect. You'd better go back and re-read the scriptural passages that address this a little more closely.
Protestant theologian A. Campbell said regarding the heavenly Kingdom: “It is not composed of children, but of those who are like them in docility, humility and meekness.”
Anybody who has actually raised a bunch of kids would have to wonder if the good Reverend had ever spent much time around children. "Docility, humility and meekness" aren't the first words that spring to mind when I think about how kids act, especially when there's more than one of them.
In fact, the disciples were trying to shoo the kids away precisely because they weren't being meek and docile. I think Jesus was commending their boisterous enthusiasm and radical openness rather than their supposed docility and meekness. I wouldn't be surprised if the kingdom of heaven turns out to be a lot livelier place than a lot of religious people are expecting.
As far as infant baptism goes, it's not really for the baby. It's a ritual that reminds the parents of their awesome responsibility, and gives them the opportunity to state publicly that they recognize and willingly assume it. Pretty good, as rituals go, I'd say.
In fact, the disciples were trying to shoo the kids away precisely because they weren't being meek and docile. I think Jesus was commending their boisterous enthusiasm and radical openness rather than their supposed docility and meekness. I wouldn't be surprised if the kingdom of heaven turns out to be a lot livelier place than a lot of religious people are expecting.
As far as infant baptism goes, it's not really for the baby. It's a ritual that reminds the parents of their awesome responsibility, and gives them the opportunity to state publicly that they recognize and willingly assume it. Pretty good, as rituals go, I'd say.
Ok, that's just absurd. The disciples were trying to wave off the children, not because they weren't "being meek and docile", but because they didn't feel the Lord would want to waste his time with them, that he had more important things to attend to. No, children were welcomed by Jesus because, unlike the older Jews, the children weren't all-consumed by their position and self-importance. They harbored no such traits among them.
If it's not really for the baby, then why is the baby the one thrust in the spotlight to have the "holy water" ladled onto their heads? The whole ritual is ridiculous. The parents have the responsibilty to train and to teach their children in God's ways.....yet ultimately the decision to live that kind of life will be made by the child at some stage. Every person will be accountable for their own decisions. The parent can't make that choice for the child.
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Some of your "facts" here are incorrect. You'd better go back and re-read the scriptural passages that address this a little more closely.
None of them are incorrect. I suggest YOU be the one to go back and re-read those passages.
Silentrascal, we are very tolerant of your religion, whatever it may be, you haven't clarified. I am wondering why you can't be tolerant of ours. As I stated before, we all have our own beliefs, we are of different faiths obviously.
In defense of OG I will c&p this, and I will post my source, as you have not done.
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Baptism and babies
Obviously, infants cannot respond immediately to the call/response aspect of the sacrament. Nor can an infant understand the change of allegiance, the putting off of the old and putting on of the new, the dying and rising, the new life, or the sharing in the life of Christ. However, the parents of those infants can understand and live those values and pass them on to their children. They can also experience the support of the community in living those ideals, and that is extremely important.
Infant Baptism only makes sense if parents are true Christian disciples. If they are not, then it makes little sense to initiate their children into a Church which calls for a commitment to living the mission of Christ.
The Rite of Baptism for Children emphasizes the importance of faithfulness on the part of parents when it says to parents: In asking to have your children baptized, "you are accepting the responsibility of training them in the practice of the faith." That word practice is crucial; it calls for Christian modeling on the part of parents.
Considering the future orientation of Baptism and the fact that we are marked for a lifelong journey of discipleship, it is important that parents be strong role models and lead the way. It is equally important that the children's sponsors (godparents) do the same. They are significant supporters of parents and the ones who can first begin to reveal to their godchildren the value of the Christian community.
Children learn to be Christian by osmosis, by experiencing Christianity at home. The "domestic church" prepares children for the local and world Church. It is in the home, in the domestic church, that children first learn basic trust which is the foundation of faith. Without the experience of faith, hope and commitment in the home, children will not be able to know and understand the larger Church.
Vatican II's Declaration on Christian Education points this out quite emphatically: "Since parents have given children life, they are bound by the most serious obligation to educate their offspring and therefore must be recognized as the primary and principal educators. This role in education is so important that only with difficulty can it be supplied when it is lacking....It is particularly in the Christian family...that children should be taught from their early years to have a knowledge of God according to the faith received in Baptism, to worship him and to love their neighbor."
Silentrascal, we are very tolerant of your religion, whatever it may be, you haven't clarified. I am wondering why you can't be tolerant of ours. As I stated before, we all have our own beliefs, we are of different faiths obviously.
In defense of OG I will c&p this, and I will post my source, as you have not done.
Why dont you give some biblical reference for your argument instead of just quoting info from websites which we dont even know how credible they are. Lets here it from God's Word itself. Do you have any scrioptures that can prove that infants are to be baptised? As far as i am concerned if you are doing a religious ritual that is not indorsed in the bible you are waisting your time because it has not spiritual signficants. Baptising an infant has not signficants. If parents are just wanting to dedicate their child to the lord, that is what Baby Deduications are for.
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