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Old Jul 19, 2007, 11:25 AM
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Why fornication or adultry is a sin?

Why God doesn't want us to have sexual intercourse before marriage? What are the
scientific reasons behind this. If having illegal children is the reason THEN if it is
controlled, still it'll be a sin. See sins have bad impacts on humans, so what bad
impacts besides STDs(Aids, herpers etc) we get because of illegal sex. Illegal children may destroy social system which is very much prominent in humans. But what if children are not born because of illegal sexual intercourse, Why is this still a sin? There must be some scientific explainations.

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Old Jul 19, 2007, 11:28 AM   #2  
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Old Jul 19, 2007, 11:41 AM   #3  
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because common beliefs and religion says so....basically. according to most religions, you should not have sex unless you are wanting to produce offspring, and as for the adultery, most religions believe in monogamy.
we are typically raised to believe polygamy is wrong, although, in my opinion, basic human instinct says otherwise..
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Old Jul 19, 2007, 12:23 PM   #4  
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because common beliefs and religion says so....basically. according to most religions, you should not have sex unless you are wanting to produce offspring, and as for the adultery, most religions believe in monogamy.
we are typically raised to believe polygamy is wrong, although, in my opinion, basic human instinct says otherwise..

Islam allows polyginy, which is why you are right alkalineangel to say that it is a basic human instinct for some to need more than one wife.

The thing about adultery being forbidden in many religions (I will speak for Islam) is that it creates many inbalances in society as you may have noticed all men who committ adultery are not too eager to take the responsibility for the children and it is the poor girl who gets the raw end of the deal and bringing up a child is hard enough with two parents, imagine single parents suffering through all the "should have been best years" of the child.This in turn produces children with socially unstable qualities and they either rebel or withdraw into a shell and their potential as a human being is not reached.

And about children not being born of adultery,almost everyone who has a relationship outside marriage do not want to have children,but how many teenage pregnancies have been there?Or for that matter how many adult unwanted pregnancies have been recorded and all are not aborted but some babies are disposed off in ways so crude, some even survive and live in hardship and some fortunate kids find good homes.

Adultery even if it does not produce children leads to disintergration of family due to unfaithfulness from either husband or wife and the whole society is based on strong human beings and humans to be strong their families need to be strong together.
Who's to say who can cheat or not....

Diseases which are spread due to adultery also effects the third party if the unfaithful has another relationship during this same time and the disease spreads and some are more effected than others.
Hence Islam forbids such things before it even begins...

Sometimes men or women are in great stress when they are not in secure relationships and a good marriage provides such balance and the faith the couple has in each other tends to effect the whole output of the man or woman as a social being.

I know this is not scientific proof...maybe someone else could fill up that part!

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You can hardly use scientific reason for moral "laws" and "codes." Biological or hormonal urges would say that fornification and adultery are natural, because a person is merely responding to stimuli. Like the phrase, "just do it" or "whatever feesl good, do it." If a person responds like that in every case, does it lessen the value of their action? How would a person then distinguish between responding out of love or responding out of some biological/chemical urge?
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I agree it would be hard to tell the difference and im not saying that we should do things more naturally, but Im arguing that scientifically, it is the way that we are made. Just like all other mammals of this earth. It is only the religion aspect that has changed it for us as a society. there are families in this world that funtion perfectly normal with multiple partners, it is when it is hidden that it becomes detrimental. as for fornication, there is nothing that says that mature people who have sexual relations will not function properly because they are not married...people do it every day, and even when children are produced, get by just fine....now when the youth get involved things change, but it isnt the act that causes problems there, its the age and level of maturity.
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"there is nothing that says that mature people who have sexual relations will not function properly because they are not married...people do it every day, and even when children are produced, get by just fine....now when the youth get involved things change, but it isnt the act that causes problems there, its the age and level of maturity.[/QUOTE]


Well if the adults are doing it, why would the youth stay away from, they look to adults for example or to show the right way.
This is where religion comes in and shows direction for the adults to lead their children to the righteous path!

And whos to say who is mature and who is not...scientifically theres no proof if a person is mature or not unless there is something seriously wrong either in mental or physical development which would show up on graphs of brain scans etc..

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Well if the adults are doing it, why would the youth stay away from, they look to adults for example or to show the right way.
This is where religion comes in and shows direction for the adults to lead their children to the righteous path!
the adults should teach their children the difference between childhood activities and adult activities simple as that. I am not an advocate of waiting for marriage. I think it is a silly rule. . Marriage does not matter when it comes to raising a child, what matters is that there are two parents. marriage is simply a way for two people to signify their love for eachother.

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And whos to say who is mature and who is not...scientifically theres no proof if a person is mature or not unless there is something seriously wrong either in mental or physical development which would show up on graphs of brain scans etc..

I agree, but its blantantly obvious when a someone has a child and can not care for themselves. if you are not an adult (18 years old by law) it will be very difficult for you to properly care for a child, as most youth can not hold a job, rent an appartment, drive a car, etc... Or when a person is not mature enough to understand how a relationship should function. that is the point im trying to make.
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Why God doesn't want us to have sexual intercourse before marriage? What are the
scientific reasons behind this. If having illegal children is the reason THEN if it is
controlled, still it'll be a sin. See sins have bad impacts on humans, so what bad
impacts besides STDs(Aids, herpers etc) we get because of illegal sex. Illegal children may destroy social system which is very much prominent in humans. But what if children are not born because of illegal sexual intercourse, Why is this still a sin? There must be some scientific explainations.
You will not find God explaining the 'science' behind his herems. However, if you ask a sociologist or family psychologist about the negative impact of pre-marital fornication, you will then receive answers with a scientific base.

There are some things that are wrong in and of themselves, and other things that are wrong because they are forbidden, either by God or by legislation. There are usually good and valid reasons for all classes of prohibitions. Wisadom lies understanding as broadly as possible what these consequences are.

It is the act that God forbids, not the consequences. It is the consequences that draws the attention of sociologists and psycghologists who have to deal with the loss of self esteem, etc.


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Why God doesn't want us to have sexual intercourse before marriage? What are the
scientific reasons behind this. If having illegal children is the reason THEN if it is
controlled, still it'll be a sin. See sins have bad impacts on humans, so what bad
impacts besides STDs(Aids, herpers etc) we get because of illegal sex. Illegal children may destroy social system which is very much prominent in humans. But what if children are not born because of illegal sexual intercourse, Why is this still a sin? There must be some scientific explainations.
I don't know that I can answer why God calls sex outside of marriage a sin. However, he DOES. I can tell you this...we see it as just being a physical act and God sees it as physical and spiritual. We don't understand what happens to us spiritually but HE does. If it were good for us, He would allow it. That is my take.
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