Just wanted to get people's opinion of who Jesus is to you and why you feel the way you do? no trick, just want to discuss...

Golden_Girl

Adam7gur I believe you have become possessed and I think it is pitiful..I seriously do. No one attacked you personally, you attacked yourself. I don't even know who you are and could care less who you are. I will defend my faith at any cost as well, but I wouldnt disrespect
someone just because they think differentl from me...unless attempt to cause a dispute with me. So if you wish to brawl for the next 20, 30, or 40 years or even more then so be it, but you do not have the authority to tell me what and how I should think or believe. As my answer is my answer alone and it was not intentionally directed towards you, but if you wish it to be then so it as well.

And the answer is No, everyone on AMHD comes from numerous backgrounds with thoughts and beliefs freely to speak their own mind without being supressed by people like you...as I can never be supressed from you nor anyone else, as I love speaking my mind and my beliefs when questioned. You do not have to hear what I have to say so you are free to stick your fingers in your ears, kick your feet, and whine all you wish. This isn't Greece.

You should be ashamed of yourself of how you act and speak. If I knew who your minister was I would surely tell him of how "ungodly" you have been acting and he would chastise you quick. Why would you allow someone else's beliefs shake you? Get over yourself already and learn some self-discipline. As you surely need prayer, and I will pray for you, as I am not the That kind of person has a sick mind and carries himself in a foolish manner to wish harm on others. There are even unbelievers who would not wish harm on others, but you seriously need help Adam7gur. Whether I see him as a prophet or you see him as God, that is definitely not what Jesus taught nor did he act and speak the way you have done. That is how satan would act.

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice. Ephesians 4:31

Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. James 4:11... *cough* Adam7gur

classyT

Golden Girl,

OH NO! not you. Let's RECAP shall we? I disagreed with you and stated you ERR and didn't understand scripture. you called me a bully, immature, suggested i didn't sound SOBER ( interesting too...i didn't know a person could slurr their keyboard, guess we learn something new everyday), also that I was a dictator, that I lacked vocabulary, sounded foolish, was judgemental ....i think you get the idea.

And THAT was just the things you called ME! nevermind what you have said to Fred and Adam.

Yes Golden Girl, you have proved yourself to be the EPITOME of respectful. ( a hardy har har)

Well, since you are so fond of quoting the scriptures...i am going to paraphrase a verse in Mathew...I believe it is Mathew 7:5

First get the gigantic LOG out of your own eye before you try to remove the spec out of someone elses.


special notice: any words in capital letters are for emphasis only! I am not shouting...but i am laughing.....

Golden_Girl

Ms. T, I'm glad to see you here again. I had came across this statement that you had made

oh yes you were, you are definitely an unkind person and very mean-spirited, you do not invite anything that differs from you. you said "I also said I personally welcomed anyone", so...why not follow your own words, as you have shown me opposite. It is a free country (hmmm..did you read that Adam7gur? Free not fee.

oh the hypocrasy..

Oh, and...
LOL...wow. Did you just say that?!? lol. Well, I must say you sure made me feel welcomed Hey you said it, not me. As these are your own words. Well then, I see all is silent as you are now eating your own words. As I have made it known who and what I am, answered the question asked, and was barbarically attacked and passive-agressively attacked,...shall I continue as your hypocrisy is quite amusing. And it wasn't even I that had called you out the other times, as it was others. What makes your hypocritical statements so sad is that you said these things just a few days ago and yet say something completely different here! Why the hypocrasy? Well, Enjoy!

...so hypocritical. Need I say more as I see it is you who does not understand scripture. ..I know..you are laughing at yourself. But not to worry as I am laughing with you..and at you

Since you can not properly quote, understand, nor follow scriptures I will quote this for you, along with the link:

"This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me; in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.'" Matthew 15:1-9
http://www.godandscience.org/apologe...ypocrites.html

classyT

Golden Girl,

You are clearly out of line.

Everyone's opinions are welcomed. You left your opinion and then proceeded to post nasty remarks to my fellow Christians who believe that Jesus IS God. Your opinion on who you believe Jesus is...I WELCOME even if I disagree andi think you are dead wrong. But you refused to STOP there.

Golden Girl, once again you lack wisdom and understanding. This isnt about your faith being different from mine or ours...it is about your nasty remarks directed at OUR Bible and the Christian faith, and then eventually attacking US personally.

Here is a thought...instead of reading everything I posted in other THREADS..try reading your own posts. You might actaully see what you have accused me of is nothing but PROJECTION.

You were barbarically attacked? by ME? seriously woman, you need to get a Grip on reality! LOL

Golden_Girl

Out of line, because you now know what you did was wrong? No, unfortunately everyone's opinions are not welcomed. This was what I said when I answered:

Yet, when being told that I will be "forced", "me and my "army will ultimately lose the war" from their army.

from you "You do not understand the Bible.", "Although I believe it (Quran) to be utterly false and those that follow it completely decieved." You can believe and disbelieve whatever you wish as that is your business. But don't think that you can alter my beliefs as you do not know what I understand and that is not your place to know, and further your loud screaming and yelling will not solve anything, ta is not how you force people.

numerous times I was the only one that attempted to set aside differences and just agree to dissagree as I was not directly speaking to anyone other than the person who asked "Who is Jesus to you". For example:

"Well, to each his own"

"we are all still entitled to our own opinion, hence the question being asked was

"Who is Jesus to you?"

"...thanks for your opinion as you are entitled to it. But, that will not make me to "re-convert". The question being asked was "Who is Jesus to you?", I knew once I answered with my opinion all sorts of people were going to rush and try and attack me for my statement"

"The topic isn't about how to make people convert, so you must learn to respect my opinion and move on"

"I agree, as they are both scriptures"

"I did not look to see if you had even posted, so my answer was not directed to you personally. Stop taking everything so personal and attacking everyone's answer that seems to disagree with yours. Everyone's entitled to their own beliefs and opinion, as I am also entitled to mine. No reason to always attack. I just wanted to clear that with you."

Sooo, why are you still trying to speak to me and address your posts to me? Oh, it' because reality isnt your reality and that someone thinks different equals "attack and persecute" to you. Is this what you are attempting to say that is Christianity? Sorry but "err" does not refer to me but too you as you "lack basic knowledge".

Ms. T, if my answer to the question asked that was written several pages back makes you feel "bullied" or "threatened" then you should not tell others that

and Really? also well, that's not what you said to me...lol
then ha..hmm
Are you sure you enjoy everyone's responses and feel afraid and threatened because of my "different view" as you recently stated?
Hmmm..well I have given many biblical scriptures and did not claim to be Christian and simply gave my personal view. Why do you speak with two tongues? I did not adress you when I posted...matter of fact I did not address anyone when I gave my answered. It was actually the other way around.

You would not know the bible if it was laid in front of your eyes. Just because I am muslim means to you I know nothing about the bible? lol...sorry Ms. T but I was raised in a strong Christian household, my mother is a Christian minister, my father is a devout Catholic, and many of my aunts and uncles are Chrisitian ministers and devout muslims. They are some of the few who are good examples of what Christians should be. I grew up reading and studying the bible, all of the bible is not false although greatly altered by many, to this day I read and study the quran, I read the bible, and the torah as those who follow God are known as "People of the Book". My family and friends do not try and attack me because I believe different and answer differently because their God and my God is the God of Abraham, of Moses, of Adam, our God is the same. They respect my opinion and agree to disagree with my opinion as I do not try and force my views on them BUT will defend what I believe when people who try and force me to thei beliefs and wish to attack. I don't who your god is but you are truly lacking.

On this thread And after numerous attempts to be "converted", I even politely asked to not be "re-converted" as I was only interested in answering the question.
After I cearly stated and made it known that that is my answer everyone has there answer and "to each his own", others still try to force me to their opinion and that I should have no opinion if it differ from theirs?

So, this was the others responses, including yours just because I had posted my view that you are unable to accept as MY view..not yours:

Being told that I will be "forced".

Me and my "army" "will lose the war"...did I say anything about army, wars, and battles? No.

trying to classify me as a scorpion because my opion differs from others: "for if a scorpion tries to walk on the head, the hand will throw him down and the foot will smash it."

violently threatening: "Be smashed golden girl" "be smashed!"
And this was a statement that you actually agreed with and yet claim that "you think it is good to welcome EVERYONE thoughts" and "welcome others" who have different of views other than yours as long as they state they are not Christian"..and honestly people don't have to first tell you what they are, they are all free to think as they wish even if it disturbs you.

Wow, what a welcome indeed! *cough* I smell story telling..
You could not even respond when I specifically had written biblical scriptures where Jesus was considered a prophet, instead you started screaming with your writing on how "out of line I was". You can think my religion is wrong as much as you like as I consider yours as wrong as well, but you don't see me trying to force you to mine and scream...oh what a great welcome *cough*. That has nothing to do with the question, in case you didn't read. So, if you want to brawl then we will be brawling for centuries if you so desire; but that will not change the differences of our views and opinions, so you will just have to accept my point of view as I accept yours and disagree.

All this for sharing my point of view...hmmm
And you call yourself Christian? I have the right to believe however I wish and you can't force me. Learn to respect yourself for a change as your breath been waisted the moment you opened your mouth to spaek to me as I never spoke to you, I responded to your ill-mannered comments.
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And Adam7gur, learn to speak truth and realize you can never answer for me, only for yourself. I quoted your false words below:

Did I say he was a total stranger? No. That is not what I should have answered so you will have to appreciate it as it is. You state to me "there is nothing bad with the truth" and yet refuse to accept what the truth is to me. I see you know nothing. So, sorry Adam but "the truth hurts you", not me. That is all you were able to do was to define words but lack to understand and follow them. So, try and follow this:


False. As we are ALL free to disagree so get over it as you can not make me change my own personal opinion and I will not change yours, but I also have the right to defend my answer. I rather you not address me anylonger as you are starting to sound like a broken record.

"Who is Jesus to you?"
The answer refers to me alone and to you. No dictatorship allowed. Everyone should feel welcomed to express their views of opinion especially when asked...and at least respect the differences in others

classyT

No, you are out of line because your posts are insulting, rude and disrespectful., judgemental, and repetative. I neither feel bullied nor threatened by you. ( psst. you are pojecting again)

Let me make myself clear.....I respect the fact that you choose NOT to be a Christian. And I can only speak for myself but I'm pretty darn sure I didn't try to convert you.

Live, laugh love Golden Girl! And post anything you like, but just know if you are going to INSULT the Bible in a Christian thread, or the Lord Jesus, or my fellow Christians, I will call you on it.

Have a nice evening.

Golden_Girl

You were insulting and rude towards me as well as disrespectful, repetitive, judgemental, and loud with your words with me. As I was trying to only answer the question and move on to the next thread. You may feel that you were not, but you were. I am familiar with other Christians doing this, but why? That is insulting to say that I am welcomed and then turn around and make known that I am not welcomed. Me giving my opinion was my only intent, as it was mine alone. Did I tell anyone that they must convert? No, I did not. It was the other way around as it is written. I believe God has a different path for all of us. It is not where we are coming from but where we are going and that our path leads us to Him and to Him alone. So my beliefs are my own and I defend them as anyone else would defend their own. My original answer is now several pages behind, so I rather leave it that way and for the thread to not evolve around me. Move on. Do not insult me and I will not insult those who find me to be a target.

I know I have the tendency to lash back at those who lash at me first, but I am also very opininated which is both positive and negative. But understand just because my view differs from yours does not mean I am trying to attack you nor does it mean you must attack. What you directed to me personally was offensive to me as I did not expect to be judged for my opinion and forced to reconvert by others. My fellow Christian family members and friends do not lash out and insult me of my differences nor do we agree. But, they do choose to respect me and I respect them, we do not take offense because we view things in a different manner and respond differently. I do not threaten them with violence nor do I support violence, whether it is verbally, physically, etc. Nor make them feel unwelcomed. And in return I continue to respect them for that and not condone me. I am always loving life and living life and love to laugh, as we are not promised tommorow.

I am half Ethiopian, and in Ethiopia where I lived it is almost equally divided with Christians and Muslims, even Jews...and yet they live in peace together for centuries even before these religions were accepted in the West. They do not agree on many subjects, but they do not belittle and insult the other. There is no reason too as we are all different and life is too short. And yet they live in peace. I believe the world has much to learn from them..I'll give you a smilie

adam7gur

Golden girl
I see you use the exact words to proove me wrong that the Pharessees used against Jesus to proove Him wrong,because like you they also said that He was possesed and by the power of Satan He performed miracles.
I guess that after this you should no more wonder who my Minister is but in case you still do, I 'll tell you His name. His name is Jesus,the Almighty God!
Take it as you like but in the Christian world and not in yours,to be free means to give up your freedom and obey God.God is not democratic, He is a King, He does not ask of our opinion He does as He pleases.
Wherever Christians are,that place whatever it is , is Holy because the Holy Spirit dwells in us.This spiritual ground is Holy and you coming here the way you do is like a piece of wood coming close to fire.Once your spirit had the chanse to derive us and reign over us but no more.The Body is coming together,the Church is being completed,the Temple is being restored.With one hand we build and with the other one we fight.
The son of the slave will never make peace with the son of the free but even if you ask of peace you will not get it because the son of the slave will never inheritance with the son of the free.We have been given a sword and by that sword we believers in Jesus shall not sign a peace testament with the unbelievers but this sword is to fight against wicked spirits like the one you demonstrate.
No compromise Golden girl, if you are looking for Sauls you will not find one because here there are only Davids.So you coming here trying to moke God's army will not be allowed.Your opinions will be slaughtered like Goliath was.Who are you to moke the living God's army?Tonight Goliath will be surrendered to David again!

Curlyben

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