Just wanted to get people's opinion of who Jesus is to you and why you feel the way you do? no trick, just want to discuss...

adam7gur

Golden girl
Wherever Christians are, they are gathered in His name and where two or three are gathered in My name says the Lord Jesus,the Son of God,The Mighty God,there I AM also!
You are here not in His name, you are here to insult Him and we as His one true Body cannot accept this.
Despite the denominations that we all come from,we are one under Him for He is the head and we are His body.Try to annoy the head and the rest of the body will not stand and watch, for if a scorpion tries to walk on the head, the hand will throw him down and the foot will smash it.
Be smashed golden girl because your points about our Lord are like a scorpion to Him! In the name of Jesus, be smashed!

classyT

Golden Girl,

I hope you feel better now....nothing like slinging insults to make the flesh feel puffed up. Enjoy!



Fred,

I wanted to give you a greenie to balance the red one you received but I have to spread the love and it won't let me. Sorry my friend.

Golden_Girl

Ms T, when you direct insults to another, do expect them to be given in return. Adam7gur, if you read my earler post on this thread, not once did I attack nor forcefully attempt to persuade you. I chose to snswer this question and did not expect your barbaric nature to try and attack my opinion. You are very arrogant in your thinking and are hypocritical with your statements as you clearly say one thing and yet do the next (next page over).

But, answer the question that was being asked as Jesus is important to me as well, just in a different way. You must try and understand that others from all walks of life and beliefs are also posting here..not only Christians. As there are also different denominations of Christianity who do not completely agree and posses their own differences as well. No two people will think exactly alike in all areas.

Adam7gur and Arcura, please do explain your purpose of attempting to persuade me to your view. Your view is yours, not mine and the same vice versa. You did direct your response to me, correct? As my name was mentioned. I respect your view, but you must all respect mine as well and stick to the question being asked. My view will not and never will change, as I will continue to also quote from the scriptures that are often overlooked, ignored, altered, and misinterpreted. So there is no need to continue to persuade or force me, either in a passive agreesive manner (Adam7gur and Arcura) or in an agressive, uncooth, and dictatorship and manner (Ms. T).

A lesson to be learned. If a question is asked, everyone is free to respond to the question however they seem fit without being biased to the other who answers differently...even if you do not agree. A quite simple theory, but lacks to be practised. The forums should be a democratic community where others are free and not surpressed nor impelled to share our thoughts, beliefs, confirmations without being offended, persuaded to convert, nor insulted. Which is not possible ith me as I am free to share my evidence with others who wish to challenge, as I am very opinionated.

Even if the only agreement is to agree to disagree, as I had stated in an earlier post. Arcura, sorry but everyone does not think alike here as I have read several of the previous posts that were posted here.

Just because everyone does not think alike does not mean that they must be attacked..not even in a passive agressive manner which is also annoying. Thank you.

So Adam to say something such as for me to "Be smashed" is crazy and foolish, so I will leave you with these scriptures, since you feel the need to attack because I believe different than you, your not even speaking as a true "Christian" should . Nor do you have the authority to "smash" anything other than yourself. Please do read and ask God to have temper-control. Also learn to be at peace and do not attempt to respond to my posts any longer, respect my viewpoint, and be at peace:

Q. 3:113-114 They are not all the same; among the followers of the scripture, there are those who are righteous. They recite GOD's revelations through the night, and they fall prostrate.

John 11:52 And not for the nation only, but in order that He might also gather together into one the children of God who are scattered abroad.

Q. 2:62 & 5:69 Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

John 17:20 I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word.

Q. 7:159 Among the followers of Moses there are those who guide in accordance with the truth, and the truth renders them righteous.

Golden_Girl

Sndbay, if you wish to have premarital sex and also boast around of how Christian you are then do as you wish but you should also practice what you preach. Personally, I am against premarital sex and I chose to wait until I was married. But also that if it is truly in your heart to change and ask God for forgiveness, God is Most Merciful and understands what is in everyone's hearts. But, if you are Christian (or from any other religion that is against premarital sex) and are freely having sex out of marriage without how God feels about what you are doing. How is that showing a good example for the younger generations?..as they are watching and observing... Everyone does have the right to their own beliefs as I was referring to religious views..hence the religious section. Sorry Sndbay, but that's not even following Christianity. Why say one thing and yet do the next? Why continue to ignore the problem instead trying to offer help and guide them. Why say one thing and yet do the next, excluding that others are watching you..why not at least try be a good example.

Is it just me or is this an epidemic in the U.S. as well as overseas? Young girls having babies and no father, high risk of STDs such as HIV and AIDS, so many who lack morals. It is different from making a mistake (which we all do) and try to better yourself from it and change. But it is sad when it is done carelessly without considering the possible consequences and being a good role model for the younger generations and to not care what God thinks of what is being done.

Whatever happened to purity and being chaste? It is as though it does not exist anylonger. Being chaste has alot to do with religion BUT also has alot to do with morals, values, self-respect, waiting to bring a child in this world for the best for that child, diseases, hurt, shall I go on? Am I the only one who care and concerned about this? I know I can not stop it. But I can question it. Who else would guide those who are not being properly guided? You can do whatever you wish as I can not force you to do so. But, why not help guide the misguided..because you never know, they may just be waiting to
Sorry, but all Christians will not agree with you and definitely not with Ms. T. They may not agree with my view, but they will not agree with. It is you do not fully understand the bible and are bothered from what I have quoted. I seriously doubt that you believe what the bible says, no reason for me to even say "If", as you rather believe everyone else rather than the scriptures. You do not have the authority to tell me what is understood and because we do not think or view the same. Just because I'm not Catholic...many Christians don't even believe what you do:

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Exodus 20:16

Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness. Exodus 23:1

Besides, who said I stated that you were yelling? I was referring to Ms. T, as that was what she was clearly doing...I do not care much for loud mouths and people who do not know how to control themselves, as I am a woman and not a child). Next time you say peace and kindness, learn to act on it instead of just typing it and learn to finally respect the opinions of others (I am not only referring to myself, you know the others who I am speaking of...). Learn to be democratic and agree to dissagree because just because someone does not agree with you, does not mean they are not of God or not understanding the bible. You are not God Arcura nor are you the "only" chosen one, so please learn to humble yourself. As others are allowed to dissagree with your opinions.

As I repeat, all Christians will not agree with you and definitely not with Ms. T. They may not agree with my view, but they will not agree with acting in a vulgar, boorish and uncivilized manner. You should be aware of that already, but here are some scriptures from your bible to meditate on to further define what I am saying, as you couldn't possibly dissagree with this as her behavior is definitely not of God...as these aren't my words, you know:

A hot tempered man (or woman) stirs up dissension, but a patient man calms a quarrel Proverbs. 15:18

Starting a quarrel is like breaching a dam; so drop the matter before a dispute breaks out Proverbs 17:14

It is to a man's honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel Proverbs 20:3

And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful 2 Timothy 2:23-24

But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Luke 6:35

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 1 Corinthians 13:4-7

Golden_Girl

Oh I just had to add this!

Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness. Exodus 23:1

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice. Ephesians 4:31

Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. James 4:11... *cough* Adam7gur

Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness. Exodus 23:1

For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults. 2 Corinthians 12:20

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Exodus 20:16

arcura

Golden Girl,
So????
I do not bear false witness about you.
I merely stated the truth.
How ever you are speaking against what and who Jesus is.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

adam7gur

Golden girl
You did attack me personally by stating that Jesus is not God but only human as I would be attacking you personally if I stated that your Father is not human but a dog!
When I defend my faith is that a way to try to persuade you?No way!
I'll speak the Truth and if that Truth somehow haunts you it is not I that persuades you but it is the Truth.
And as for free speaking,free will,agree to dissagree and things like that I am telling you that these things belong to human political systems like democracy. When it comes to God, there is no democracy,there is only Theocracy. As you probably know ''democracy'' means the Kratos of the Demos .Kratos means power in Greek and Demos, is an extension of people, so democracy means the power of the people.What makes you think that the power of the people is the system that God wants for His own things? Things are not done by the power of the people but things are done by the power of God!
Your ancient points that you so well demonstrate through scripture and through other writings flow directly from the ancient source of magic that mixes good and evil through knowledge!Even before creation you do this when that ancient source rebellioned against the only Authourity.In Paradise that ancient source of magic mixed good and evil again and forced man and woman to fall from God's presence.Jesus restored what we lost in Paradise by defeating that ancient source of magic, and we have now the honor and opportunity to come into God's presence through our Faith in Jesus, the Son of God,the Almighty God, the Everlasting Father!
So your methods are no longer hidden.Your points have only one goal.To steal God's presence from man and woman that Jesus died for.
Your opinions are no different than the snake of Paradise and by the authourity given to every believer in Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit and by the Powere of the Holy Spirit I will not allow you to poison us again.
In the name of Jesus Christ be smashed!
My battle is not against flesh and blood Golden girl , my battle is against wicked spirits and there is no politeness in such a battle.
I do not see Jesus being polite to any wicked spirit nor do I see any of His believers.Nothing that I said is against you Golden girl , it is against the wicked spirit that you demonstrate and to that spirit the Body of Christ will never be kind.I will never be kind to snakes and scorpions because I know well how they hate us humans.I have seen their hatred on myself and how they tried to destroy me,but the Lord Jesus delievered me from their authourity and power over me.
Come to the Freedom Golden girl, come to Life,come to Light,come to Jesus and throw away those things that steal the Presence of God from you,because being in the Presence of God is Life!
I ask you to see who Jesus is and receive Him and accept Him for who He really is, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen!

sndbay

We turst in all that was written, and we believe that we live by every word spoken from the mouth of God.

The law of God told us (Deu 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken)

And the Law of God told us (Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that [is] the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, [but] the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him)

So we look to what is spoken from Jesus, and even on the cross did HIS words cry out to teach us.
(Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?)
and witnessed again in
(Mark 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?)
On the cross Jesus teaching, as the prophet we were promised that God would send to us, and HIS words shown in truth of (Psalms 22:1-31) and all that was foretold that would take place.

Everything that was ever said and done by the begotten Son of God, had the power of God, and the glory of God shown in it.

Matthew 21:11 And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.

Mark 6:4 But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.

Luke 24:19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:

John 6:13-14 Therefore they gathered them together, and filled twelve baskets with the fragments of the five barley loaves, which remained over and above unto them that had eaten. Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in ONE.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Refer: Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Golden_Girl

Arcura, Actually you did. As I remind you, these are your words "You do not fully understand the bible" and "That is of course IF you believe what the bible says" . That means I merely just stated the truth about you as well. No. I am not speaking against I am speaking for. Why is it a big deal how I think and believe...unless you consider me in your way and you are overly sensitive? You will just have to agree to dissagree whether you like it or not. Simple.

Golden_Girl

Adam7gur I believe you have become possessed and I think it is pitiful..I seriously do. No one attacked you personally, you attacked yourself. I don't even know who you are and could care less who you are. I will defend my faith at any cost as well, but I wouldnt disrespect
someone just because they think differentl from me...unless attempt to cause a dispute with me. So if you wish to brawl for the next 20, 30, or 40 years or even more then so be it, but you do not have the authority to tell me what and how I should think or believe. As my answer is my answer alone and it was not intentionally directed towards you, but if you wish it to be then so it as well.

And the answer is No, everyone on AMHD comes from numerous backgrounds with thoughts and beliefs freely to speak their own mind without being supressed by people like you...as I can never be supressed from you nor anyone else, as I love speaking my mind and my beliefs when questioned. You do not have to hear what I have to say so you are free to stick your fingers in your ears, kick your feet, and whine all you wish. This isn't Greece.

You should be ashamed of yourself of how you act and speak. If I knew who your minister was I would surely tell him of how "ungodly" you have been acting and he would chastise you quick. Why would you allow someone else's beliefs shake you? Get over yourself already and learn some self-discipline. As you surely need prayer, and I will pray for you, as I am not the That kind of person has a sick mind and carries himself in a foolish manner to wish harm on others. There are even unbelievers who would not wish harm on others, but you seriously need help Adam7gur. Whether I see him as a prophet or you see him as God, that is definitely not what Jesus taught nor did he act and speak the way you have done. That is how satan would act.

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice. Ephesians 4:31

Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. James 4:11... *cough* Adam7gur