No ones sins are forgiven through confession. They are only forgiven through receiving Jesus Christ as Saviour by means of the blood that he shed on the cross for our sins.

You did not read what it said. It says that we know Him and them keep His commandments. It is only through first being saved that we are even able to keep His commandments.

Needinfo,
Very good point.
Thanks,
Fred

True, but "if we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness". You are covered for all past sins and sins not done willfully.

True, trying to keep the law as Messiah did to earn your "forgiveness" is not possible.

Right. The forgiveness of sin is entirely by grace.


Throughout your post you are referring to the first step which is justification/salvation/forgiveness etc. The first step qualifies you to run the race, you still have to make it to the finish line to receive eternal life.

Paul knew it:


Although Paul made his confession and preached to many he still was hoping to qualify for the resurrection. He knew there was more to eternal life than justification.

The reality is that you have 1/2 the "Good News". You know how to have your sins forgiven, but you don't know the way that leads to eternal life.

Is our Saviour a liar?


C'mon, it should be in red in your Scriptures. Trust Him, He knows

Ok, maybe we can agree that at some point one needs to keep the commandments.

I sure hope you are wrong.

1John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

We should, but no one has, therefore to say that we need to is incorrect.

Needinfo,
You have made some excellent points.
Well said, well done.
We must DO what Jesus, our savior, told us to DO.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Ah, but you did not say what we confess or who to! And it is not the confession which cleanses our sins, but the blood that He shed on the cross.

1 John 1:7-8
7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.
NKJV

What we need to confess is to Jesus that we are sinners with no hope outside of His sacrifice on the cross, and to confess that we submit ourselves to Him as Lord.

Just any confession doesn't do it.

We can not ear our way to heaven.
But we can and should try our best to Do all that Jesus told us to do.
A good strong faith will help us do those things.'
Faith and doing what we should gives us the true hope of salvation.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Where did it say ONLY all past sins? It says ALL unrighteousness.

We are making progress.

But what is it that scripture refers to by running the race? Scripture is clear that it has nothing to do with keeping all the commandments, or that would leave out Paul:

Rom 7:19-23
19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. 21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. 22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
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Are you saying that Paul went to hell?

Are you saying that there is more to the gospel to be saved than God said in His word?

John 6:36-38
37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.
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But you say that we may be cast out.

Rom 5:8-9
9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.
NKJV

Justified by His blood we shall be saved from wrath. But you say that there is more than God said.

Acts 16:30-31
30 And he brought them out and said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" 31 So they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household."
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Did Paul forget to tell him the rest?

Did you read the rest? Next it says:

Matt 19:19-22
20 The young man said to Him, "All these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?" 21 Jesus said to him, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
NKJV

Now before we go on, we need to point out that the young man lied. He had not kept the commandments, and here is why I know:

1 John 1:8-9
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
NKJV

So Jesus showed that He is fact fell short and was not able to be saved by keeping the law. Now let's look at the rest of the discussion:

Matt 19:23-27
23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." 25 When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, "Who then can be saved?" 26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
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Note that Jesus said that keeping the commandments would not bring the young man to salvation - it was not possible.
No our Saviour is not a liar. He was right and you were wrong!

Thanks Fred. We are all in this together, no one gets a pass on Judgment Day. You would think we would want to embrace the truth. Paul sure did. After killing Israelites, he did a 360 on the Damacus road and said "Master, what wilt thou have me to do?". He accepted the truth without hesitation.

Shalom/Peace

Correction: Everyone needs to or else they will not be admitted into the Kingdom.

These have kept the commandments:

These have been a law unto themselves:


Romans 3:4 ".. let YHWH be true, but every man a liar;

How can anyone argue when the Scriptures are so clear?

Romans 3:25
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of YHWH;

Hebrews 10:26
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Galatains 6:7
Be not deceived; YHWH is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

You cannot say you are "saved" then go and fornicate and come home and ask for forgiveness. You have sinned wilfully and YHWH will not be mocked. This concept about "wilfull sin" ought to be intuitive.

P.S.-So if anyone is they need to stop and repent now.

Then, according to Romans 3:23, there is no hope. Your gospel is therefore not the "good news", but a condemnation.

Where does it say that they kept all His commandments? Because scripture says that anyone who says that is a liar.

1 John 1:10
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
NKJV

Have you kept all the commandments?

You did not answer the question. Where does scripture say that the sacrifice on the cross ONLY pays for our past sins.

That is what you claimed.

First let me repeat what was a problem for Gentiles who spoke the same language as Paul yet 1,950 years ago still misunderstood him. As Peter points out:


The Scriptures say "judge a man by his fruits"

Let's examine some of Paul's fruit:


Why is Paul telling Gentile converts to keep the Passover Feast? Are not the feasts done away with for "Christians"? Why would they learn anything about the law that had passed away for "Christians"

The cup of blessing is a toast in the Passover Seder meal. Corinth was a prosperous, pagan and immoral city whose "Christian church" was dominated by Gentile converts. How and why do these Gentile converts know about the Passover celebration if they are not to keep the feasts?

Paul determines to give the Gentiles 4 cores concepts from the Levitical law and states they will learn the rest of "Moses" every sabbath day in the synagogues. Does it seem strange that over the past 2,000 years this contradiction has not been address by "the church"?

The Nazarenes are Israelites that believed Yahushua was the Messiah. Epiphanius an early church member has this to say about them:


According to the Scripture, Paul is the ringleader of this sect of Nazarenes.

I have a lot more but I don't want to lose your focus.

No one except for the Messiah "kept the law" perfectly, but if they sinned they had to sacrifice an animal to make atonement. That is "keeping the law". You strive to do what you are required when you miss (without premeditation) you can be forgiven.

If the ruler had told a lie to Messiah He would have told him to his face. You make Messiah a liar by your interpretation; if He said "go and do this and you will be perfect" then Messiah is a liar according to your reasoning. Your argument is flawed based on that.

You are clearly wrong here. Messiah was asked a point blank question. "How do I inherit eternal life?" There are 3 parallel accounts Mathew 19:16-26, Mark 10:17-27 and Luke 18:18-27. In Mark and Luke, Messiah states "one thing thou lackest", not "it is impossible". He could not say it if it were not true. He was required to keep the commandments plus sell all he had because of covetousness.

Study to shew thyself approved unto YHWH, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Needinfo,

If you were rightly dividing the Word, you wouldn't be mixing law with grace.

Do you follow the law? Do you not eat pork and follow the sabbath. Many Christians do... they are in error.
Note:

I say this all the time and I am sure people get sick of me repeating... but you need to understand who the writer is and who they are speaking to. Got to put everything in context. :)