What does it mean to submit to your husband?

N0help4u · Aug 20, 2009, 09:33 PM

The husband should not rule the wife.

The Bible says for the wife to submit to the husband AS he submits to God. Which means if he is following God then he will have your best interest at heart and not be ''ruling'' you.

If he thinks kids should drink then he is not submitted to God so the chain of submission is broke.

Eph 5: Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansinga her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”b 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

snotbubble · Aug 20, 2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by N0help4u

The husband should not rule the wife.

The Bible says for the wife to submit to the husband AS he submits to God. Which means if he is following God then he will have your best interest at heart and not be ''ruling'' you.

If he thinks kids should drink then he is not submitted to God so the chain of submission is broke.

Eph 5: Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansinga her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church 30 for we are members of his body. 31 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.b 32 This is a profound mysterybut I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

Do you know of a passage that would say drinking even in moderation is wrong? People always use the excuse of everyone in the bible drinking wine and I know it says only in moderation but I can't imagine giving a 17 year old some wine and saying "now, only drink a little bit" like they'll never want to have more than they should.

N0help4u · Aug 20, 2009, 09:54 PM

I was going to ask you what country you are in in my first reply but I'll ask here.

I don't know any Christians in the USA that tell kids to drink a little wine but I do know that it is common in Italy.

The Bible says IN moderation. I think each case is different according to the family and culture but other things need to be taken into consideration.
If you explain the situation you are dealing with a little better than might make it easier to answer what is best in your situation

N0help4u · Aug 20, 2009, 10:01 PM

Red wine has resversotol in it which is an antioxident which is why it was considered good in Bible days.

”No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments (1 Timothy 5:23).”

Here are a couple sites

I don't know how accurate they are because I'm getting too tired to read but they should cover the basics.

Christians and Alcohol

75 Bible References on Drinking Alcohol

Some people use a reasoning against alcohol saying that some wine referred to in the Bible as acceptable was more like non alcoholic cider.

Alty · Aug 20, 2009, 10:19 PM

Okay, I don't frequent the Christianity boards anymore, but I saw this and I have to say something.

Husband as ruler?

Are we still living in the 1700's? Did we not get the right to vote, bear arms, fight for our country, get equal pay for equal work and all that jazz?

Are there really people still out there that allow this?

No bible passages from me, sorry, I'm just in shock.

When I got married we took out the verse "honor and obey" because we both knew it wasn't going to happen. We both honor each other, but obeying is what our dogs do.

I am an equal in my house. If he wants a glass of water he can get it himself. If he wants to eat and I'm not home, or don't feel like cooking, he knows how to work the stove. All the decisions in our household are made together, if we don't agree we talk it out and reach a compromise.

Obey. Ruler. Sigh.

Do you have to walk 10 steps behind him in public too?

arcura · Aug 20, 2009, 10:31 PM

N0help4u,
You made some excellent post and points on this.
At the moment there is nothing I can thing of to add other than the husband is not the ruler of the family, God is. The husband is expected to obey and follow Gods way.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Fr_Chuck · Aug 20, 2009, 10:53 PM

First 1200 or 1700 or 2100, the bible does not change, merely the desire of the hearts of the people who need to follow the word of God.

But the bible is not one verse, the churches that take each verse out of context are dangerous, since you have to look at where the manloves the women as Christ loves the church

arcura · Aug 20, 2009, 11:11 PM

Fr_Chuck,
Yes indeed.
A man who loves his wife as he should (and the bible does tell us what such love is) is not going to be a bossy person but rather a loving, understanding, cooperative spouse.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

snotbubble · Aug 21, 2009, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by N0help4u

I was going to ask you what country you are in in my first reply but I'll ask here.

I don't know any Christians in the USA that tell kids to drink a little wine but I do know that it is common in Italy.

The Bible says IN moderation. I think each case is different according to the family and culture but other things need to be taken into consideration.
If you explain the situation you are dealing with a little better than might make it easier to answer what is best in your situation

Yes I'm in America. I know a lot of parents who let their kids drink but not many christian parents who allow it. I don't really have a specific situation. I don't even have kids yet. Haha. We were just talking about what it would be like to have kids in a few years when we're out of college. We just disagreed on how we would handle the no drinking situation. His parents let him drink and he started at an early age. My mother pounded me about not drinking or doing drugs and I was so against it all for the longest time but I still eventually drank when I was legally allowed to. We have our own opinions on what would work. It's not really an issue yet at all. I just wish I could find a verse to make him change his view. I'll show him the one you posted.

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