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Old Nov 1, 2007, 12:55 PM
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What is the difference!

"Despite the fact that I have morals and values, I don't commit crimes, I'm a good person, I contribute to society and my community, I have a family, etc, that's not enough for you. You insist I must believe to be "good" in your eyes. How about basing your opinion of someone based off of their actions instead of their beliefs? How about respecting the differences people have, and keep your religion to yourself when you encounter someone who is satisfied with their spiritual self?"

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This is the typical response from atheist/ agnostics/ non- beliver's.

I might also add that alot will also state that Christians are hypocrites because they are judgemental and don't lead lives any "better" than non-believer's. The divorce rate, Ted Haggard, the fall of televangelists are prime examples. And I don't dispute these examples.

Then we are told there is no scientific "proof" of a God, which I believe comes down to interpretation of the same facts.


SO why should they believe? What is the difference?

I did not want to intrude on their "atheist" thread over on spirituality.


As a Christian, I have some thought on this, but I want to hear from you all brothers and sisters in Christ.







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Old Nov 1, 2007, 12:59 PM   #2  
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I agree with you. I'm christian, but not your typical. I embrace certain beliefs while I despise others and even substitute some with what I believe to be the most moral.
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Old Nov 1, 2007, 01:09 PM   #3  
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?????

Sounds like you should be addressing this to someone in particular. Worse yet, you are making blanket statements that are not true and unfair.

...like what it sounds like you are complaining about.

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Originally Posted by inthebox
"Despite the fact that I have morals and values, I don't commit crimes, I'm a good person, I contribute to society and my community, I have a family, etc, that's not enough for you. You insist I must believe to be "good" in your eyes. How about basing your opinion of someone based off of their actions instead of their beliefs? How about respecting the differences people have, and keep your religion to yourself when you encounter someone who is satisfied with their spiritual self?"

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This is the typical response from atheist/ agnostics/ non- beliver's.

I might also add that alot will also state that Christians are hypocrites because they are judgemental and don't lead lives any "better" than non-believer's. The divorce rate, Ted Haggard, the fall of televangelists are prime examples. And I don't dispute these examples.

Then we are told there is no scientific "proof" of a God, which I believe comes down to interpretation of the same facts.


SO why should they believe? What is the difference?

I did not want to intrude on their "atheist" thread over on spirituality.





As a Christian, I have some thought on this, but I want to hear from you all brothers and sisters in Christ.







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Thanks INthebox, I am all to familiar with this response. I find it very difficult to relate on any sort of level with this mindset. I have been trying to "put the shoe on the other foot" so to speak and see it from the other side. What I have boiled it down to is that we (as christians) will just always find resistance from the world when we discuss the bible, Jesus, God, salvation, etc. We know Jesus did to the point of death and so did many others after him. We will always be portrayed as "shoving" it down there throats when we state our beliefs but when they do we should be more open minded.

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I'm adressing to this to Christians in general.

I'm asking a question that is posed by members to other members on past Christianity threads and on


http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/spiritu...ow-111864.html

I'm sorry if my question is obtuse.

Perhaps I'm only making a statement and that should be on the members board and not posed as a questions specific to Christians.?


Please bear with me.

I think the difference is a recognition for the need for being forgiving and being forgiven by God.

There are others I can think of.






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I made the post, is there something you would like to say to me directly?

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One thing many people forget is that Christians didn't make the rules. We only had them revealed to us by God. Those that don't like the rules need to take it up with God, not Christians.
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I made the post, is there something you would like to say to me directly?
No, we dont need your athiestic input. i think he specifically stated he wanted to hear from other fellow christians.

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TheSavage disagrees: eirst reddie I`ve given in a long time -- you sir and your ilk are why I feel the way about christians I do -- Savage
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For the record, I want to apologize to Jilleanleab for not referencing her statement and perhaps taking it out of context.





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No, we dont need your athiestic imput. i think he specifically stated he wanted to hear from other fellow christians.

This is precisely the point, Christians can be worse or better when it comes to dealing with our fellow human beings , especially those thave different beliefs or lifestyles.

What makes us different if we are going to do the same things ?

If non-believer's want to make positive or negative comments, that is fine by me.






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