Is the Trinity a Christian Truth?

Firstly, I'd like to say that I do not believe in the Trinity, simply because after a long time of studying the Bible's contents, I have found no evidence to firmly confirm this teaching.. If it was rue it would be fundemental, therefore emphasised. Which it is not. Many can only go as far as tosay it is 'implied'.

Secondly, a Protestant publication states: “The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century.” (The Illustrated Bible Dictionary) And a Catholic authority says that the Trinity “is not . . . Directly and immediately [the] word of God.”—New Catholic Encyclopedia.

Mark 13:32- “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead.)

John 14:28- “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

1 Cor. 11:3- “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. So the truth here stated applies to the relationship between God and Christ in heaven.)

I needn't go on, we were given free will to accept what we choose, peace be with all. I hope I have perhaps cleared this you a little.
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It is not a provable proposition anymore than the WatchTower's interpretation of the bible ,and your subsequent beliefs in henotheism;.Both are matters of faith .Both concepts have sufficient biblical passages supporting them for those who like to split hairs and endlessly debate .Trinitarians are monotheists. We believe in one indivisible God.The Trinity doctrine states very clearly and deliberately that there is one God.Therefore there is no contradiction in the belief in the Trinity by a monotheist

Hope12 disagrees: Hi Joe, Totally disagree. According to the Bible there is only one True God.

You better not start trouble here like you have done else where. You asked for different opinions then you stick your DIRT in my face.

I never said there was more then one God. So stop twisting around my words and back off.

Joe

Re Read my post Hope.
I am done here.

Btw: For every Scripture there is for the Trinity there are two against it's false teachings.

Notice:

Here are some scriptures misapplied to support the false teachings of the Trinity doctorine.
Genesis 1:1
Genesis 1:26
Deuteronomy 6:4
Isaiah 7:14
Isaiah 9:6
Isaiah 43:10-11
Isaiah 44:6
Micah 5:2
Matthew 1:23
Matthew 3:16, 17
Matthew 28:19
John 1:1
John 1:18
John 1:23
John 2:19
John 5:18
John 8:58
John 10:30
John 14:9
John 20:28
Acts 20:28
Romans 9:5
1 Corinthians 12:4-6
2 Corinthians 13:14
Phlippians 2:5, 6
Colossians 2:9
1 Timothy 3:16
Titus 2:13
Hebrews 1:6
Hebrews 1:8
Hebrews 1:10-12
1 John 5:7
1 John 5:20
Revelation 1:11
Revelation 1:17
Revelation 22:12-13

Total of 37 sited scripture used to support the Trinity teaching which are falsely interpreted and misunderstood.
Lets first start with the fact that neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament.

Also Jesus early followers drew clear distinctions between God, Christ, and the holy spirit. In fact, they baptized disciples
(1) in the name of the Father,
(2) in the name of the Son, and
(3) in the name of the holy spirit
Not in the name of a Trinity. We need to differentiate between God, his Son, and the holy spirit.
(Matthew 28:19) Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,

The Encyclopedia Americana notes that the doctrine of the Trinity is considered to be beyond the grasp of human reason.
Many who accept the Trinity view it that same way. Monsignor Eugene Clark says: God is one, and God is three. Since there is nothing like this in creation, we cannot understand it, but only accept it.
Cardinal John OConnor states: We know that it is a very profound mystery, which we don't begin to understand.
And Pope John Paul II speaks of the inscrutable mystery of God the Trinity.
A Dictionary of Religious Knowledge says: Precisely what that doctrine is, or rather precisely how it is to be explained, Trinitarians are not agreed among themselves.
We can understand, then, why the New Catholic Encyclopedia observes: There are few teachers of Trinitarian theology in Roman Catholic seminaries who have not been badgered at one time or another by the question, But how does one preach the Trinity? And if the question is symptomatic of confusion on the part of the students, perhaps it is no less symptomatic of similar confusion on the part of their professors.
The truth of that observation can be verified by going to a library and examining books that support the Trinity. Countless pages have been written attempting to explain it. Yet, after struggling through the labyrinth of confusing theological terms and explanations, investigators still come away unsatisfied.
Jus then how do Trinitarians explain the Trinity doctrine? Contending that since the Trinity is such a confusing mystery, it must have come from divine revelation creates another major problem. Why? Because divine revelation itself does not allow for such a view of God:
God is not a God of confusion.1 Corinthians 14:33, Revised Standard Version (RS).
In view of that statement, would God be responsible for a doctrine about himself that is so confusing that even Hebrew, Greek, and Latin scholars cannot really explain it?
Do people have to be theologians to know the only true God and Jesus Christ whom he has sent? (John 17:3, JB) If that were the case, why did so few of the educated Jewish religious leaders recognize Jesus as the Messiah? His faithful disciples were, instead, humble farmers, fishermen, tax collectors, housewives. Those common people were so certain of what Jesus taught about God that they could teach it to others and were even willing to die for their belief.
Matthew 15:1-9;
Matthew 21:23-32, 43;
Matthew 23:13-36;
John 7:45-49;
Acts 4:13.

Does the Bible teach us about the Trinity? NO!
If the Trinity were true, it should be clearly and consistently presented in the Bible. Why? Because, as the apostles affirmed, the Bible is Gods revelation of himself to mankind. And since we need to know God to worship him acceptably, the Bible should be clear in telling us just who he is.
First century believers accepted the Scriptures as the authentic revelation of God. It was the basis for their beliefs, the final authority. For example, when the apostle Paul preached to people in the city of Beroea,
They received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so. Acts 17:10, 11.
What did prominent men of God at that time use as their authority?
Acts 17:2, 3 tells us: According to Pauls custom . . . He reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and proving by references [from the Scriptures].
Jesus himself set the example in using the Scriptures as the basis for his teaching, repeatedly saying:
It is written. He interpreted to them things pertaining to himself in all the Scriptures. Matthew 4:4, 7;
Luke 24:27.
Jesus, Paul, and first-century believers used the Scriptures as the foundation for their teaching. They knew that
all Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16, 17;
1 Corinthians 4:6;
1 Thessalonians 2:13;
2 Peter 1:20, 21.
These scriptures that prove the trinity teaching as false.
(Deuteronomy 6:4)
(Galatians 3:20)
(1 Corinthians 8:4-6)
(Isaiah 42:8)
Exodus 20:2-3)
(Isaiah 45:5)
(Psalm 83:18)
(John 17:3)
(Genesis 17:1)
(Exodus 18:11)
(John 3:13)
(John 6:62)
(Colossians 1:15)
(Revelation 3:14)
(1 Corinthians 8:6)
(Matthew 4:1)
(Matthew 4:8-9)
(Deuteronomy 32:4)
(James 1:13)
(Matthew 4:10)
(1 Timothy 2:5-6)
(1 Corinthians 15:22)
(1 John 4:9)
(Hebrews 11:17)
(John 1:18)
(Colossians 1:15-17)
(Matthew 8:29)
(Matthew 27:54)
(Genesis 1:2)
(Psalm 143:10)
(Numbers 11:17)
(2 Peter 1:20-21)
(2 Timothy 3:16)
(Micah 3:8)
(2 Corinthians 4:7)
(Judges 14:6)
(Mark 1:10)
(Luke 5:17)
(Luke 7:35)
(Matthew 3:11)
(Mark 1:8)
(Ephesians 5:18)
(Acts 6:3)
(Acts 13:52)
(2 Corinthians 6:6)
(John 14:16)
(John 16:13)
(John 16:7-8)
(2 Corinthians 4:4)
(John 8:44)
( John 8:32.)

Here alone are just 52 scriptures that prove the trinity teach false. Pick anyone of these scriptures and tell me what version of the Bible you use and I will explain using your version of the scriptures how each one of the above scriptures prove the trinity teaching as false and not Bible based. One at a time. You pick the scripture and I will prove how it shows the trinity is false.

BTW: True Christianity started before 200AD.

Take care,
Hope12

Hello Joe,
I don't start trouble, just made a simple statement. I know that if you believe in the Trinity you believe that God the father, God the son, and God the holy Chost, Right? All are almighty and all are one, right?

My disagreement is not to start trouble but to exercise my freedom of speech by saying that I believe that their is one Almighty God, and that he is a separate being from His Son Jesus Christ. I also do not believe in the holy spirit as a being but as God's force or power. Therefore, yes we all have different body parts that work together but does not the Bible say that "God can not die?" That being the case and if God are the same but different parts of God, did part of God die?

You better not start trouble here like you have done else where. You asked for different opinions then you stick your sh__ in my face. "

I have never treated you badly nor do I as a Christian speak to anyone with such volugar language. You desire your freedom and you tell us about your opinion. Am I also not allowed that same freedom? If I am able to listen and read your opinion, should not I be given that same respect?

Take care,
Hope12

Why did you write this Joe? "

Hope, I appologize I might have used the wrong word sh__ . Although it is a real word and not really a curse word. It is used to describe dirt, crap and other things, I guess I could have came up with a better word, and I did.

So I changed the word to dirt. Sorry again.



Joe

Then again Hope, You need to apologize to me for twisting my words around to suit your beliefs. Making it sound like I believe in more then one God, which I never said, so pretty much you know the reason why I said what I said but you came here for one mission and that is to hammer people over the head with your preaching style posts.

Hello Joe,

I will humble myself and apologize if I have made your agry by giving my opinion. I am of the understanding that a Father is not his son, as a Son is not his father. They both can not be the same. You are claiming Jesus is God and I made the statement that God is one God the father. Not Jesus but the God almighty, the Father.



I quote what you said:

Amen to that! Yes, true Christianity started before 200 A.D. My point in referencing this date is to show just that. This was in reference to