I want to know what other believers ideas on this topic. Please answer this question only if you are a believer...
Is there and inbetween after we die?? I mean while we wait for the coming of jesus christ.
Or where do you think Jesus went after he died, but before the resurection, during those three days to minister?
Or when the rich man who, in life would help Lazarus, could see him nesstled in
Abraham's bosom. See liuke 16:19-26.
What do you think Sheol is??
Please I would really like to know what you think or if there is more scriptures relatiing that maybe I have overlooked

plonak

I know that Jesus spent his time in hell when he died in between his resurection.. that's in the bible, but sorry I dont have a verse on hand.

I believe that when we die, we are just going to be "asleep" but it's going to feel like a blink of an eye.. in other words when we die, i think that everything will have passed and gone and the world will be over and we will be in front of jesus being judged, thousands of years may have passed, but it felt like nothing to us.. how the armegedeon falls into that I don't know.. maybe when we die, we will (after many many years perhaps) be put back on earth to live out the end times, or some people believe in the rapture.. it's just what people believe

leeseeandjoel

Thank you for your response..
In luke however, it talks about them being conscious of where the were.....
luke 16:22.. So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abrahams bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23..and being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Jazarus in his bosom. 24.. hen he cried and said Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.25..but Abraham said , son, remember that in your life time you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 and besides all of this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot nor can those from there pass to us.

plonak

It's confusing!!

leeseeandjoel

Amen to that! Thanks ..... I guess some things we are not meant to know...or maybe all in God's great timing. I just can't help but think about it.. I have very specific reasons for why I am asking. The Lord has answered all questions I have for him thus far, but this one he simply led me to LUke and I still can not figure out. I guess this could be a chapter in my life not yet read...or a lesson he wants to teach not ready to be taught.?? I'll pray about it and ask the Lord and eagerly await the answer. Thanks again...

MoonlitWaves

There are some verses which have me believe that there is no waiting place or time. I believe that when we die we immediately go to God or hell; there is no in between.

During the crucifixion of Jesus, remember the thief. (Paraphrasing here) One said to Jesus, save us and yourself if you are Christ. The other who believed Jesus to be the Son of God rebuked the other thief saying we are being condemned justly, but Jesus hasn't done anything to be condemned. So the one who believed asked Jesus to remember him when he ascends to His Kingdom. And Jesus said to the thief who believed in Him...

Luke 23:43, "And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise."

This is a small verse, but very straight forward. The thief who died was told by Jesus that he would be in paradise with Him that very day.

Here's another that has me believe the way I do.
2 Corinthians 5:5 & 6, "Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit. Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
2 Corinthians 5:8, "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord."
To me these verses tell me that when we are at home in our bodies, meaning we are alive, we are absent from the Lord in heaven. But when we are absent from our bodies, meaning our body is dead, we are in the presence of the Lord. I don't get any indication of an in between with what Paul says here. It's pretty clear to me that the death of our bodies equals our soul being in the presence of the Lord.

Then in Philippians Paul states that he desires to die and be with Christ, but he also knows that God needs him to stay and preach the Word of God to the people. Paul says that death is gain for him because to truly live is to live with Christ...
Philippians 1:21, "For me to live is Christ, and to die is gain."
In the next two verses we read about Paul's desire to be with Christ, but he knows that he is still needed here on earth.
Philippians 1:23 & 24, "For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ;which is far better: Nevertheless to abide in flesh is more needful for you."

My thoughts on this is if there is an in between, if Paul doesn't get to go straight to Jesus, why would he have such a desire to die so that he may dwell with Christ?

This is my belief and why I believe the way I do. Maybe it will help.

Galveston1

1 Pet 3:18-19
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
(KJV)

I believe that while the body of Jesus was in the tomb, He was preaching to those souls in Paradise, not those in Hell. As you point out, they were both places of waiting, but separated. I believe that they were forced to wait until the Sacrifice of Jesus was complete before they could be ushered into the presence of God. I believe that the following passage indicates that Paradise was emptied when Jesus rose from the tomb, and believers no longer go there.

Matt 27:50-53
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
(KJV)

De Maria

Yes.


As a Catholic, I believe in Purgatory. The story in St. Luke 16: 19-26 shows a person, the Rich Man, who is in a place called hell. Yet the Rich Man has feelings of love for his family. Since feelings of love can't exist in the hell of the damned, then we believe he is in Purgatory.

Another prooftext for Purgatory is 1 Cor 3:10-15. Here, St. Paul says that those who have built their temple on the foundation of Jesus Christ will be tested by fire. If they have built with precious materials they will go to heaven. If they built with poor materials, they will also go to heaven but as by fire.

Another prooftext is Rev 20 where it says that some dead will rise but the others will sleep for 1000 years.

Apocalypse 20 5 The rest of the dead lived not, till the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Sincerely,

De Maria

DaBaAd

1 Thessalonians 4:13 - Moreover, brothers, we do not want YOU to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping [in death]; that YOU may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope.

This clearly states that those in death are but asleep waiting the resurrection.

Ecclesiastes 9:5 - For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten.

This shows that the dead are "unconscious" so there is no inbetween.

Sheol -

The Hebrew word Sheol occurs in the Bible many times and describes it as "man's grave". This does not mean hell.

tawnynkids

Here are two excellent references:
BIBLE STUDY MANUALS: SHEOL, GEHENNA, HADES AND THE AFTERLIFE - A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE
http://www.geocities.com/dcheddie/life1.html

Hope they help.