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    #41

    Sep 7, 2009, 07:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    Christians do NOT want the earth destroyed.
    They just know it is inevidible.

    I warned people for 20 years that 9/11 was going to happen on Sept 11 01 or Sept 11 02 and everybody thought I was crazy. Did that mean I wanted it to happen????
    NOPE!
    You warned people? Right.
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    #42

    Sep 7, 2009, 07:05 PM

    Yeah and I warn people about what is going to happen around 2015 -17 just as much.
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    Sep 7, 2009, 07:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    yeah and I warn people about what is going to happen around 2015 -17 just as much.
    You've got to be kidding.
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    #44

    Sep 7, 2009, 07:37 PM

    Nope Not at all.
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    Sep 7, 2009, 07:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    Nope Not at all.
    So there's no way to argue about it with you at all, is that it? You're just right and that's all there is to it?
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    #46

    Sep 7, 2009, 07:46 PM

    I have been right so far. Maybe things I say will happen in 2015 -17 won't happen but if they do I will say I knew it.
    If they don't then it will be the first time I have been wrong about ''end time prophecies'' that I believe will happen and when.
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    Sep 7, 2009, 08:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    I have been right so far. Maybe things I say will happen in 2015 -17 won't happen but if they do I will say I knew it.
    If they don't then it will be the first time I have been wrong about ''end time prophecies'' that I believe will happen and when.
    Whatever (yawn).
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    Sep 8, 2009, 12:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    Christians do NOT want the earth destroyed.
    They just know it is inevidible.

    I warned people for 20 years that 9/11 was going to happen on Sept 11 01 or Sept 11 02 and everybody thought I was crazy. Did that mean I wanted it to happen????
    NOPE!
    Not arguing with you, but I would like to know what you base your dates on?
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    #49

    Sep 8, 2009, 04:17 PM

    Based my dates on what?

    Sept 11 DID happen 2001

    The prophecy I heard and told people about the guy told me that on some Sept. 11 the Twin Towers were going to be taken down and they would try for the Pentagon too and it happened.
    While other Christians were saying the rapture was going to happen by 2000 I was telling people that I believed 9/11 would happen in 2001 or 02.
    Now I am basing the dates on what I see happening in the news, prophesies and what I sense, which is what I have been doing all along.
    What I have been saying since 1976 is that the RFID chip would be mandatory by 2016 or 17 and the anti Christ will be revealed around that time.
    There is a lot more to it but that is the very basic.
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    Sep 8, 2009, 10:02 PM
    N0help4u,
    Thanks much for that information.
    I, however, wonder about which anti-Christ that will be.
    As I understand it there will be several.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    Sep 8, 2009, 11:52 PM

    tishrei: 7th hebrew month
    This year the month Tishrei starts at sunset of the 18th of September and goes on for 30 days.
    See what Tishrei is about!
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    Sep 9, 2009, 12:17 AM
    Thanks Adam,
    This month is for to "make sure you are purged of all bitterness" among other things.
    I think that is good advice for every month or day.
    Bitterness is like hate it does great damage to the person who is bitter or hates.
    It's like an acid that keeps on destroying.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    Sep 9, 2009, 11:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    N0help4u,
    Thanks much for that information.
    I, however, wonder about which anti-Christ that will be.
    As I understand it there will be several.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
    There have been many anti-Christs, but there will be THE ANTI-CHRIST who will fulfill end time prophecies.

    The most notable will be that he will subdue 3 governments out of the 10 government alliance of nations from within the old Roman Empire territory. He will then make a covenant with Israel. He will break it after 31/2 years.

    The signing of that particular treaty will signal the start of the 70th week Daniel was told about.

    As far as US troubles are concerned, judgment could indeed fall on this country without having anything to do with the Anti-Christ. Or even the 4 horsemen of Revelation.
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    #54

    Sep 9, 2009, 04:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie 3 View Post
    It is evil that is trying to bring this country down. We can stand by and watch or start praying and battle for our country.
    I am praying, everyday; that this country can survive the current administration.
    There are places on the net you can go to and pray with others. There is a president prayer site I have been going to that is very good. What I see going on is hate-talk that is growing almost out of control; people are paid to promote this. Who is going to stand up and battle this call to pray for our country and stop the evil and hate that is burning across this nation? God is the answer and I hope you hear the call to pray. Only through prayer can we tap into the limitless resources, of God.
    I'm one of those who disagree with the course that this administration has taken. I don't talk hate, nor am I paid for doing so. I hear the call to prayer, my prayers are that the freedoms we enjoy today will be present for our children tomorrow.

    Only by praying can we test the Lord's promise. "If you ask anything in my name, I will do it" John 14;14 In love for our country we must unite ourselves for the good of our country. Let us pray for the president and all elected, an appointed officials, that they will be able to carry out their duties, and do what is right for the country in a godly way.
    I'm praying that the current administration is voted out of office in the next election.

    When godly people are silent evil triumphs. This evil and hate must be stopped; it can affect every person and everything in the US. Prayer is power and sharper then a two edged sword, it will bring us together in power. Pray like your life and country depended on it, because it does. I am 78 yrs young, wife, a mother, grandmother, and great grandmother, their lives and your life and your love ones, depends on what we do, lets pray.
    It's true that when people are silent for too long, they find themselves governed by Czars, tax cheats, Marxists, and socialists.

    Heavenly Father, open our eyes
    Amen!
    and enlighten us to see the truth behind the evil
    Amen!
    And hate that is going on in our country. We seek Thy counsel, and put every problem facing this country in your hands, asking You to give us an answer. I believe you will
    And save us from this administration, Amen!
    put the desire in our hearts to seek your face in this time, in Jesus name, Amen !!!
    Amen! Amen!
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    #55

    Sep 9, 2009, 10:21 PM
    JoeT,
    I pray for my country as you do.
    We need a new president who is moral, not one who is a radial supporter of abortions and same sex marriages.
    Fred
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    #56

    Sep 10, 2009, 09:56 PM
    Joe T and Fred, What do you think God's veiw is on these scriptures,
    Rom. 13, 1, Let every soul be subject to the governing authority, For there is no
    Authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.
    Also read, Prov 8:15---- Dan 2:21-----Titus 3:1-----Acts 23:5


    Blessings, Maggie 3
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    Sep 10, 2009, 10:21 PM
    Maggie 3,
    As for me I think it means exactly what it says.
    God is the authority; the ultimate authority; for His is the power, the kingdom, and the glory now and forever.
    There is no other.
    But I see no prophetic messages about the USA that I can trust to be accurate, for I do not KNOW of any that are from God for sure.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    #58

    Sep 11, 2009, 03:25 PM

    Well, Maggie,

    When the government was wrong, the Apostles faced them and said that they (Apostles) had to obey God rather than man.

    We are under obligation to obey civil laws unless those laws are contradictory to the Law of God.

    I beleve that when we the people have the opportunity to have a voice in how our country is run, we are obligated to stand for what we see as right in the light of the Bible.

    To do otherwise is to accept a part of the blame for the sins of the government.

    Therefore, I will vote and speak out against anti-Christian programs and proposals.
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    #59

    Sep 11, 2009, 07:58 PM
    galveston, you are right, the christian is called to bear with the government wherever
    Possible. Jesus did not call for revolution against Rome, even though it was an
    Oppresseve conqueror of Isreal. On the other hand, the apostles refused to obey an
    Order not to preach and teach in Jesus name. Acts 5 :27-29 Whenever the civil
    Government forbids the practice of things that God has commanded us to do, or tells us
    To do, or tells us to do things He has commanded us not to do, then we are on solid ground
    In disobeying the government and rebell against it. I do think we should act respectfully
    And be careful not to let hatred takeover , that is from satan, and is an evil
    Act.


    Blessings, Maggie 3
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    Sep 11, 2009, 08:32 PM
    I removed my comments --- They were Just too far off topic

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