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Old Jun 22, 2008, 03:50 PM
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sex before marriage

from what i've heard, you won't go to heaven if you have sex before marriage. my friend and her boyfriend are really close, and she has told me she might have sex with him. they are sixteen, and i'm not sure what to tell her. she also asked me this: "if i have sex with him, will i go to hell?"

so i guess my question is, will she go to hell, and how do i stop her?!

 
     

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Old Oct 1, 2008, 09:22 PM   #31  
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Dear Patriarch! I think you are focussing on the tree here than on the forest.
There are verces in the book of Ecclesiastes that you cannot isolate the way you do from the rest of the book because they can really mislead you.

The entire book nor the entire 3rd chapter of Ecclesiastes does not talk about death, which is the subject of discussion. I used scriptures that are about the subject of discussion.

The whole message of the book is coverd in chapter 12 ver. 13,14... 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

This I agree with, but we are talking about death.

14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

In other words i cannot say who's going to hell and who's not that's God's job , because there are many secret things , good and evil.

The Bible does tell us who goes to hell.

Do not judge by the phenomenon that can mislead even the strongest , but judge in Christ who can save even the weakest!
This is true for there are many false prophets in the world, even those who claim to be Christian-- Matthew 7:15-23, 10:16, 15:1, 3, 24:4, 5; Acts 20:29, 30
 
 
     
 
 
Old Oct 4, 2008, 12:06 AM   #32  
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Dear Patriarch!
You write somewhere that every one who dies go to hell and then you use verses from the Ecclesiastes book to support your opinion.
I have one question... Since as you say that everyone who dies go to hell , when Jesus died did He go to hell also?If everyone who dies go to hell , then why did the Lord say to the criminal that was crusified with Him that they will both be together in Paradise that night?Not everyone who dies go to hell but everyone who is in hell , is dead!Death is not hell, but hell is death.The verses you used simply do not match with sex before marriage , and that is the question here.How did death come up?
Your judgement comes easily , but remember that the Pharisses did the same thing.They judged by the word of the law and not by the Spirit of the Law.
So what about death?Do you actually say that everyone who dies go to hell?What about Lazarus and the rich guy?Where did Lazarus go after his death?Definetaly not in hell!So how can you say what you say?If you say that everyone who lives his life in sin until his death will go to hell then i agree with you , but this is something else from everyone who dies go to hell.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Feb 11, 2009, 04:16 PM   #33  
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How on earth did you get such an interpretation from those verses? That's not what that means at all!
Back to my old argument, how valuable is the bible if everyone is trying to figure out what it REALLY means when it says this or that. Who is to say what is really meant by a verse?
 
 
     
 
 
Old Feb 12, 2009, 03:38 AM   #34  
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To your question whether or not this girl will go to hell my candid answer is that NOBODY can tell. In the first place, let us hope she will live long enough to have plenty of opportunities to work for her own Salvation, is she believes in that possibility.

Being punished with whatever waits for us sinners who do not sincerely repent is something we cannot anticipate, as we cannot anticipate any of GOD’s designs.
If you read DANTE’s Divine Comedy, you will see that he “confortably” installs into Hell a lot of people that we should think we have gone directly to Heaven. Even some Popes! Of course, this is a fiction, but it has a lot of common sense in it.

On the other hand, premarital sex does not guarantee a successful marital life afterwards, and it does guarantee, instead, a potential source of problems which can be everyday seen and heard of in our media.

To stop this girl from doing it, you can only apply to her common sense! We have ALL being young, and we have ALL felt like having sex before having been married. I for one kept on begging my wife-to-be for the 3 last years before our marriage! Her answer was always the same – a flat NO! This next May we shall have been 59 years happily married!
Early sex may shorten sexual interest when married. We all know that the passion of newly weds does not last long! If they spend it before getting married what will be left for afterwards?

Perhaps this is one of the reasons why so many couples who are living together for a while decide to get married one good day to divorce a few months later...
 
 
     
 
 
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My gosh people!!
This was originally written over 18 months ago, think it might be dead by now??
 
 
     
 
 
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My gosh people!!
This was originally written over 18 months ago, think it might be dead by now??
And your point is...?
 
 
     
 
 
Old Feb 12, 2009, 11:27 PM   #37  
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unknown624,
If a person wants to mess up the rest of their life having sex before marriage is a great way to do that.
So far there has been some good advice given and it should be followed.
Keep in mind that having sex before marriage something special is gone forever and great danger for someone so young has taken place.
Condoms are not 100% safe and should not be trusted. They break, they leak and sometime they come off.
Resisting the temptation to have sex builds character. It is a great way to strengthen ones self for trials in later life.
It is also a great way to be proud on ones self rather than regretting for the rest of life something a person has done that could have been avoided.
This is one of those times that saying "NO!!!!" is extremely important.
Peace and kindness,
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I don't think its as simple as 'if u have sex before marriage u are going to hell' because Gos forgives every sin and also James said that a man that keeps all of Gods laws except one is as guilty as a man who brakes all of Gods laws. so doesnt that show that every sin is equal and we were born as sinners? we are always making mistakes but i dont think u should concentrate on them but concentrate on helping others and in ur case i agree with the parenting expert, u should explain that it puts her in risk of getting pregnant and she is too young. because also having sex is a way of binding two people together and most of the time at 16 ur too young to make the decision as to who your going to be bound to for the rest of your life...
thats just my thoughts..
 
 
     
 
 
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Penguinio, Thanks for your thots on that.
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My gosh people!!
This was originally written over 18 months ago, think it might be dead by now??
I what I said can be considered a piece of good advice, then I think tha date of the thread is irrelevant.
In fact, I believe it can be applied to anybody facing the same problem.

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