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Old Oct 14, 2007, 11:44 PM
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Proverbs 3: 5

"Lean not on thine own understanding", Prov. 3: 5. What does this mean but do not think for yourselves ? If we didn't lean on our own understanding we wouldn't have made all the progress we have, automobiles, air travel, space flight, modern medicine, the internet. We'd all still be in the dark ages if we didn't lean on our own understanding. If we didn't lean on our own understanding we wouldn't have these computers that we all find so useful that you all apparently like to use.

 
     

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Old Oct 18, 2007, 06:39 AM   #51  
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I believe in freedom of religion, but I also think the Muslim faith is more dangerous to your way of life than Christianity is. But again, extremism of any kind is dangerous.
The christian reconstructionists are just as dangerous as any muslim extremist. They want to expand the death penalty to include homosexuals, adulterers, unruly adult children, & idolaters (& they consider even non-reconstructionist christians to be idolaters). They are in government. If you are not a reconstructionist then you're in danger too christian or not.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Oct 18, 2007, 06:49 AM   #52  
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The christian reconstructionists have already infiltrated the governement & they are influencing our laws. It only takes a few judges to impose crazy laws on all of us, whether they are outnumbered or not. I read on one website that president Bush has been known to consult with the reconstructionists.


Do you believe everything you read on the internet? That is less reliable than the Bible, you better watch out

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Old Oct 18, 2007, 07:02 AM   #53  
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Do you believe everything you read on the internet? That is less reliable than the Bible, you better watch out
I bet you trust those internet sites that says the earth was formed 6000 to 10000 years ago, & that says dinosaurs lived with men. You believe in talking snakes & talking donkeys, & you tell me not to believe everything I read on the internet ?
 
 
     
 
 
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Can you prove Jesus is the Christ without using the bible ? No. That's because the bible isn't backed by any independant contemporary historical testimony. The bible is pure hearsay, second hand information, delivered through a so-called prophet who claimed it was the word of God. If God doesn't directly communicate with you, then it is not revelation. It is hearsay, & hearsay is not generally admissible in court. Find some Confirmed secular historical source contemporary with Jesus & see if they recount Jesus' miracles or resurrection.


lol ... are you serious. It is a historical fact that Jesus lived even secularists atleast admit that!! There are plenty of non Biblical acounts of Jesus and the miracles he performed. You need to do your research. The fact that he is Christ is recieved through faith in the claims he has made. & since have accepted him as christ, i have a relationship with him and i talk to him every day and he talks to me every day. He has turned my life arround. I was adicted to drugs, sex you name it and the day i called out to him and invited him into my life he changed me. Instantly my desire for drugs and evil things disappeared. i literary felt his power surge through my body. I was just like you diest. People told me about God/Jesus and i thought they we crazy. Until i was at my lowest point and death was knocking on my door. Out of all the religious names i heard of Muhamed, Budah, confucious etc. the only name that i found myself calling upon was Jesus. Jesus showed up into my life and my life has never been better.

so i why would i try and go out and digg out historical evidence fossil records and all that jargon, if i have experienced him first hand. what he did for me is more than enough evedence to prove his existance. No- one can convince me( no matter how much evidence you try and dig up) he does not exist because i have seen him and felt his presence. & that is why when you trying to interlectually argue against a Christian, it is a waist of time because all these Christians you see on here, have each had a personal encounter with Him. So a guy who calls himself Diest on the Ask Me help desk website is not gonna change thier minds so you are waisting valuable time you could be using toward something more product.

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Old Oct 18, 2007, 08:15 AM   #55  
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I bet you trust those internet sites that says the earth was formed 6000 to 10000 years ago, & that says dinosaurs lived with men. You believe in talking snakes & talking donkeys, & you tell me not to believe everything I read on the internet ?


i supose beiliving in some Big Bang that just happened from know where and everything that is inexistance came from some brown soup is more realistic. I dont thinks that is far more of a strech. the only reason you believe is the world is billions of years old is because someone told you that. There is not evidence for that. How do you know dinosuars did not live at the same time as man. Were you there?? no since you think seeing is believing... Was anyone there that long ago to say with certainty that the world is that old? NO. but you believe it anyway. Evolution is a THEORY not a Fact. Definition of the Theory :An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture. The world could be 1000 days old for all we can realy historicaly know. But i believe the Bible is Truth so i will go with 6k. You have just been brain washed into thinking what ever theories scientist dish out to must be Fact. But most of what they say about the origin of the earth is based one assumption after another one speculation after another. God is the Greatest scientist there is because he created science
 
 
     
 
 
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Consider your own home, as a good example......you KNOW that it was constructed by someone. It didn't just have all of its components randomly or haphardly come together just out of blind chance. Your home is kept a comfortable temperature is stocked with an ample amount of food. The same thing applies to the earth. Where is the logic behind saying that an intelligent creator isn't responsible for our home, earth? How could it make ANY kind of sense that the earth is kept in exactly the right orbit and distance from the sun in order to support and sustain life without someone having placed it where it is, just so? Any closer to the sun and we'd burn up....and further away and we'd freeze to death. Then there's all of earth's cycles, the seasons, the water cycle, and so on and so forth.....how could it possibly have all come together and stayed in place without someone of great power and intelligence having designed it this way?

The notion that there was this sudden "big bang" so many countless millions or billions of years ago is absurd. Where would the materials have come from in the first place in order to compose this "big bang"?

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MoonlitWaves agrees: I find it hard to understand how people can not see that everything around us and even we as human beings are much too complex for happenstance. I think the big bang theory is much more far fetched than the Bible/God's creation will ever be.
 
 
     
 
 
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I bet you trust those internet sites that says the earth was formed 6000 to 10000 years ago, & that says dinosaurs lived with men. You believe in talking snakes & talking donkeys, & you tell me not to believe everything I read on the internet ?


Are you a politician b/c you have an uncanny ability to not answer a question and then argue completely irrelevant issues.

I believe in the Bible and no amount of your consipracy theories of "reconstructionists" or whatever is going to get me or the majority of other christians to change our minds. I believe in God and Jesus and what they said and did and what they continue to say to me.
 
 
     
 
 
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Consider your own home, as a good example......you KNOW that it was constructed by someone. It didn't just have all of its components randomly or haphardly come together just out of blind chance. Your home is kept a comfortable temperature is stocked with an ample amount of food. The same thing applies to the earth. Where is the logic behind saying that an intelligent creator isn't responsible for our home, earth? How could it make ANY kind of sense that the earth is kept in exactly the right orbit and distance from the sun in order to support and sustain life without someone having placed it where it is, just so? Any closer to the sun and we'd burn up....and further away and we'd freeze to death. Then there's all of earth's cycles, the seasons, the water cycle, and so on and so forth.....how could it possibly have all come together and stayed in place without someone of great power and intelligence having designed it this way?

The notion that there was this sudden "big bang" so many countless millions or billions of years ago is absurd. Where would the materials have come from in the first place in order to compose this "big bang"?
You must not read all the posts. I have said on several occasions that I believe in a God.
 
 
     
 
 
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Consider your own home, as a good example......you KNOW that it was constructed by someone. It didn't just have all of its components randomly or haphardly come together just out of blind chance. Your home is kept a comfortable temperature is stocked with an ample amount of food. The same thing applies to the earth. Where is the logic behind saying that an intelligent creator isn't responsible for our home, earth? How could it make ANY kind of sense that the earth is kept in exactly the right orbit and distance from the sun in order to support and sustain life without someone having placed it where it is, just so? Any closer to the sun and we'd burn up....and further away and we'd freeze to death. Then there's all of earth's cycles, the seasons, the water cycle, and so on and so forth.....how could it possibly have all come together and stayed in place without someone of great power and intelligence having designed it this way?

The notion that there was this sudden "big bang" so many countless millions or billions of years ago is absurd. Where would the materials have come from in the first place in order to compose this "big bang"?


You are right on!! But your argument to Deist is fallling on deaf ears b/c Deist has been severly hurt by the church or christians in some way and has blocked out any attempt for the truth to be heard.
 
 
     
 
 
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Consider your own home, as a good example......you KNOW that it was constructed by someone. It didn't just have all of its components randomly or haphardly come together just out of blind chance. Your home is kept a comfortable temperature is stocked with an ample amount of food. The same thing applies to the earth. Where is the logic behind saying that an intelligent creator isn't responsible for our home, earth? How could it make ANY kind of sense that the earth is kept in exactly the right orbit and distance from the sun in order to support and sustain life without someone having placed it where it is, just so? Any closer to the sun and we'd burn up....and further away and we'd freeze to death. Then there's all of earth's cycles, the seasons, the water cycle, and so on and so forth.....how could it possibly have all come together and stayed in place without someone of great power and intelligence having designed it this way?

The notion that there was this sudden "big bang" so many countless millions or billions of years ago is absurd. Where would the materials have come from in the first place in order to compose this "big bang"?

you are so right!! the only reason why evolutionist say the earth is millions of years old is because they need that many years to defend thier theory. the theory of evolution's basisically says over billions of years anything can happen. So basically if you had a 2 monkies on typewriters randonmly typying over billions of years, they would eventually at one point come up with All of shakespears works (Romeo&J , Othelo, Hamlet etc) incuding all the sonnets and rhyming couplets. Thats is highy impropable even over billions of years.. I dont know why today still believe in that theory when the creator of the theory charlse darwin, doubted his own theory.
 
 
     


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