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Old Oct 15, 2007, 12:44 AM
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Proverbs 3: 5

"Lean not on thine own understanding", Prov. 3: 5. What does this mean but do not think for yourselves ? If we didn't lean on our own understanding we wouldn't have made all the progress we have, automobiles, air travel, space flight, modern medicine, the internet. We'd all still be in the dark ages if we didn't lean on our own understanding. If we didn't lean on our own understanding we wouldn't have these computers that we all find so useful that you all apparently like to use.

 
     

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Old Oct 17, 2007, 10:37 AM   #31  
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I think everyone should just ignore Diest because he is just out to Convert everyone to his Diestic religion. But as i have seen, he is more of an athiest or something than a diest because he was arguing against me when i was trying to prove that saying there is no god is an irrational statement. You would think a diest would support that argument distpite differences on which god we feel is soverign. He said something like "I believe there is a god but i dont "know" if there is a god..." he went on about science and evolution blah blan blah. So diest is just confused he doesnt know who he is or what he believes. i think he has just formed a new religion called THE Confusion Diestic Athiestic Agnostic Evolutionistic Evangelistic Religion the C.S.A.A.E.E for short. You are confused buddy stop attacking the Christian beliefes and stick to your own... People who spend the whole day trying to attack other people's religion are just in secure about thier own.

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I think everyone should just ignore Diest because he is just out to Convert everyone to his Diestic religion. But as i have seen, he is more of an athiest or something than a diest because he was arguing against me when i was trying to prove that saying there is no god is an irrational statement. You would think a diest would support that argument distpite differences on which god we feel is soverign. He said something like "I believe there is a god but i dont "know" if there is a god..." he went on about science and evolution blah blan blah. So diest is just confused he doesnt know who he is or what he believes. i think he has just formed a new religion called THE Confusion Diestic Athiestic Agnostic Evolutionistic Evangelistic Religion the C.S.A.A.E.E for short. You are confused buddy stop attacking the Christian beliefes and stick to your own... People who spend the whole day trying to attack other people's religion are just in secure about thier own.
I don't care what you or anyone says you sanctimonious hypocrite, you do not KNOW that there is a God.
 
 
     
 
 
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I don't care what you or anyone says you sanctimonious hypocrite, you do not KNOW that there is a God.
Common sense would dictate that there is a Creator, and this Creator is God Almighty. A close examination of the planet, of what we know of the universe, of the minute details that allows us to live and breathe is ample evidence to KNOW that there is an intelligence behind it all. It's absurd to think otherwise, that everything just sort of happened by chance.
 
 
     
 
 
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Common sense would dictate that there is a Creator, and this Creator is God Almighty. A close examination of the planet, of what we know of the universe, of the minute details that allows us to live and breathe is ample evidence to KNOW that there is an intelligence behind it all. It's absurd to think otherwise, that everything just sort of happened by chance.
I believe in God because of those arguments in one form or another, but there could be another explanation of how the universe began that didn't involve a deity. I BELIEVE in God, that doesn't mean there is one. I also believe in evolutionary science. It didn't make me an atheist.
 
 
     
 
 
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I believe in God because of those arguments in one form or another, but there could be another explanation of how the universe began that didn't involve a deity. I BELIEVE in God, that doesn't mean there is one. I also believe in evolutionary science. It didn't make me an atheist.
Diest, you can KNOW God exists. I KNOW God exists. Knowing and fact/undeniable evidence doesn't always have to go hand in hand. I used this example in response to you in another post...I know when I have a headache, but I can't prove it for a fact when I have one. Just because I can't prove it to you doesn't mean my head doesn't hurt nor does it mean I don't know when I have one. So, I may cannot prove God's existance to be fact, but that doesn't mean He doesn't exist nor that we can't KNOW He does exist.
 
 
     
 
 
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Diest, you can KNOW God exists. I KNOW God exists. Knowing and fact/undeniable evidence doesn't always have to go hand in hand. I used this example in response to you in another post...I know when I have a headache, but I can't prove it for a fact when I have one. Just because I can't prove it to you doesn't mean my head doesn't hurt nor does it mean I don't know when I have one. So, I may cannot prove God's existance to be fact, but that doesn't mean He doesn't exist nor that we can't KNOW He does exist.
There is a young new theory that mathmaticians & quantum phyicists are looking into, that the big bang that formed our universe was caused by a collision with another universe that exists along side ours in a higher dimension, & that this has been happening over & over again forever. Right now it's just a theory & it may never be proven, but there is always the chance this is the correct theory. That could explain existence without a Creator if ever proven true. But I doubt it will ever be proven true. I believe the standard big bang theory.
 
 
     
 
 
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I don't care what you or anyone says you sanctimonious hypocrite, you do not KNOW that there is a God.
Whether you want to believe it or not, it does change the fact that I KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt there is a God... the one true God the almighty God who sent his son Jesus who is just as much God as He is to die on the cross for your sins and mine.
 
 
     
 
 
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I believe in God because of those arguments in one form or another, but there could be another explanation of how the universe began that didn't involve a deity. I BELIEVE in God, that doesn't mean there is one. I also believe in evolutionary science. It didn't make me an atheist.
OK, so why are you so angry? Do you want everyone to belive as you do? Can you not accept that there are those of us who are firm believers, and if so how does that affect what you believe?
 
 
     
 
 
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Whether you want to believe it or not, it does change the fact that I KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt there is a God... the one true God the almighty God who sent his son Jesus who is just as much God as He is to die on the cross for your sins and mine.
Can you prove Jesus is the Christ without using the bible ? No. That's because the bible isn't backed by any independant contemporary historical testimony. The bible is pure hearsay, second hand information, delivered through a so-called prophet who claimed it was the word of God. If God doesn't directly communicate with you, then it is not revelation. It is hearsay, & hearsay is not generally admissible in court. Find some Confirmed secular historical source contemporary with Jesus & see if they recount Jesus' miracles or resurrection.
 
 
     
 
 
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Can you prove Jesus is the Christ without using the bible ? No. That's because the bible isn't backed by any independant contemporary historical testimony. The bible is pure hearsay, second hand information, delivered through a so-called prophet who claimed it was the word of God. If God doesn't directly communicate with you, then it is not revelation. It is hearsay, & hearsay is not generally admissible in court. Find some Confirmed secular historical source contemporary with Jesus & see if they recount Jesus' miracles or resurrection.

That has to be one of the most stupidest things I've ever read in here.....so far.
 
 
     


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