prophets

SSchultz0956 · Oct 5, 2005, 07:41 AM

I was wondering what people thought about prophets. In the bible it is made known that God revealeth nothing except it be through his servants the prophets. Further, Christ said that he organized his church on prophets, apostles, evangelists, teachers, etc. My question to you is, has God closed the windows of heaven? If not, where are his prophets and apostles? The orginazation of Christ's church had 12 apostles, why do we not see a need for them now? How can God reveal His truth without them? or are we left alone on this dark earth? Is this not why so many different religions have formed? I just want to know what people think about these questions.

Morganite · Apr 20, 2006, 07:33 PM

It is worth recognising what is written in the Apocalypse:

The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

MRGANITE

Hypatia · Apr 20, 2006, 09:14 PM

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[SIZE=2] I think it is a tough thing being Christ like in a christian world dominated by rules of man and church rather than that of Christ. I often wonder what the real words and standards of Christ were compared to what is the latest "christian trend". So many years, so many minds, so many translations. If only we could for a moment experience the purity of Christ.
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To be blunt, this is why non christians have an issue with Christians. If ever the day comes when the religious world come to terms with the idea and acceptance that whatever anyone believes is ok, will be a major turning point in the lives of humans.

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There are many "prophets" and holy people of every dogma and spiritual path. You, him, her, me, them, we are all prophets of "God". Maybe if people saw this they wouldnt live in the dark staring at the light.

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Starman · Apr 21, 2006, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hypatia

It is ok to believe anything you wish! God has no religion!

In short, everyone can be a law unto himself.
That means that if you believe in animal torture as part of your religion it's OK. If you believe that gang rape and murder is part of your religion that's swell. If you believe in theft--well, God has no religion so go ahead. Which of course means that you have no God at all. Correct?

Hypatia · Apr 21, 2006, 09:34 AM

Honestly Starman, NO. I believe religion is a crutch for weak minds and unmindful people who choose to skirt responsibility for their actions.

I think for man to dictate and try to spread like disease their own interpretation of a being called God, to insist on the facets of God by order and association the true shame and idocy of mankind.

Who is anyone to label and categorically place such a God? What power does a man truly posess when he tries to prevent others from the God experience by the rule of church or temple?

If I have no God or do who has the right to judge me or condemn me?

To do the mindfull thing does not need religion as a guide. It only needs love and acceptance. Moral value stems not from the bible or other religious book but from the hearts of man. Religion is a tool for those who are too weak to follow their mindful heart. A tool for barbarians to master gentile soceity.

This is my opinion. Religion is crap.

Hypatia

Hypatia · Apr 21, 2006, 09:37 AM

And just to clear something up, you said " That means that if you believe in animal torture as part of your religion it's OK."
Ha! Try looking at the church and reading how many people they have murdered, tourtured, forcefully converted, and so on. How many "witches" were burned in the name of God and religion?

It is ok for the church to torture animals, murder children, burn heretics. They only have to find a scripture in the bible or other text they can reinterpret to suit their needs. If that fails they simply rewrite the bible. King James did it.

Hypatia

Starman · Apr 21, 2006, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hypatia

And just to clear something up, you said " That means that if you believe in animal torture as part of your religion it's OK."
Ha! Try looking at the church and reading how many people they have murdered, tourtured, forcefully converted, and so on. How many "witches" were burned in the name of God and religion?

It is ok for the church to torture animals, murder children, burn heretics. They only have to find a scripture in the bible or other text they can reinterpret to suit their needs. If that fails they simply rewrite the bible. King James did it.

Hypatia

You are referring to apostates. Only apostates whould go against the teachings of Jesus in reference to loving neighbor as self.

31pumpkin · Apr 21, 2006, 09:43 AM

Hypatia,

I am taking the time out of my busy day to respond to you because I feel there is some misunderstanding here.

Notice that the questioner (SShultz) asked a legitimate "believers" question? Well. Then notice how the one with" a professed no religion " comes in with a comment or even a sarcastic question about the Bible being a work of fiction.?...... Woe to that! The Devil is real. Those that" buy "into the lies are the lost. And you can see some TRUE BELIEVERS on this thread. Maggie B, another new member, and Solarman (sorry I didn't remember your name right Solarman!) Actually, (if I knew how to" save " my post, I'd go back and get his name right- but of course I really do" bite" when it comes to the computer.)

Anyway, he had a post that was most excellent. It was erased but it explained about Jesus and God. Now, the teachings of Christ are for men (and furthermore, for believing men) And Jesus has to do with the body -- or the Church. Now, for a woman ( or a sister in Christ ) I put my trust in the Almighty One! Hebrews 11:6 - And without faith it is impossible to plese God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

And that is the only cause and effect I'll ever believe in!

The Spirit of the Lord . Hallelujah!

Starman · Apr 21, 2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hypatia

Honestly Starman, NO. I believe religion is a crutch for weak minds and unmindful people who choose to skirt responsibility for their actions.

I think for man to dictate and try to spread like disease their own interpretation of a being called God, to insist on the facets of God by order and association the true shame and idocy of mankind.

Who is anyone to label and categorically place such a God? What power does a man truly posess when he tries to prevent others from the God experience by the rule of church or temple?

If I have no God or do who has the right to judge me or condemn me?

To do the mindfull thing does not need religion as a guide. It only needs love and acceptance. Moral value stems not from the bible or other religious book but from the hearts of man. Religion is a tool for those who are too weak to follow their mindful heart. A tool for barbarians to master gentile soceity.

This is my opinion. Religion is crap.

Hypatia

Considering your views I can undestand why you have concluded that religion is crap. But the problem seems to be that you are confusing Christianity with apostasy. The two have nothing in common and neither do their adherents. As for judging, no man has a right to judge another man as eternally damned. Tha't's only for God to decide.

31pumpkin · Apr 21, 2006, 10:07 AM

Correction to a word in my post- I'm changing "ALMIGHTY ONE" to" ALMIGHTY"

Just keeping Christ in the picture... Lord!

Hypatia · Apr 21, 2006, 10:16 AM

Before we get lost in conversation and more off topic.........I will answer the question presented by SSchultz0956.

"Has God closed the windows of heaven? If not, where are his prophets and apostles? "

I think we are the "windows" of God. Every person, animal, rock, tree etc is a living embodiment, a living experience of God. That which IS. Like appendages we are not detached from the body though we can sometimes feel far from the heart.
We are the prophets, the messengers, the voices of God. God speaks in every action every non action. We only have to see the wisdom in these experiences. We need no burning bush or messiah to know God. We need no labeled savior or person labeled special to hear God.
God is right here. Gods messengers are right here. Recognize your potential and be what you dream. I am that I am.

Hypatia



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