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So again, this still seems like a practice that solely benefits the parents and not the child.
I mean, if it is written that the parents do not choose the faith of the child, then this dedication has no emphasis on what the child will choose to believe.
It is just the parent saying to the pastor and to the community that they are a good Christian and they will try to teach their child to be the same.
DrJizzle,
The child must eventually make a choice himself....you are correct to say it is more for the parents. I believe it is a way to show the Lord Jesus that you want to raise your child to believe the Bible and Christian teachings. Utlimately it is UP to everyone to decide what they will do with the Lord Jesus Christ.
Personally, I was never dedicated to the Lord as a baby because my parents didn't get saved until later. It really had no impact on my salvation. it is a NICE thing to do before the Lord.
So really this is a way for the parents to use their child to "come in good graces with God" themselves and has absolutely nothing to do with the child?
Are you just trying to be argumentative on this subject?
There are lots and lots of people who go to church on Christmas, mothers/fathers day and Easter and believe that they are Christians. Does not make it so!
The church I belong to believes that baptism is reserved for the time in a persons life when they become fully aware and make the decision to follow Christ. At a young age, parents will bring their child before the congregation and dedicate them. All that means is that they as parents are telling God that they will make every effort to raise that child in a godly home and to understand God and his son Jesus Christ. The congregation is also making a promise to the Lord that they will do what is necessary to help the parent(S) in this process.
And I could say the same thing about YOUR church! That has to be one of the rudest comments that I have read on this "Christian" forum in a long time!
I dont go to church and I am fully entitled to my opinion. This "Christian" forum is not restricted to posts BY Christians... simply posts ABOUT Christianity.
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DrJizzle,
The child must eventually make a choice himself....you are correct to say it is more for the parents. I believe it is a way to show the Lord Jesus that you want to raise your child to believe the Bible and Christian teachings. Utlimately it is UP to everyone to decide what they will do with the Lord Jesus Christ.
Personally, I was never dedicated to the Lord as a baby because my parents didn't get saved until later. It really had no impact on my salvation. it is a NICE thing to do before the Lord.
Right... and on the same note, I WAS dedicated to the Church (which I didnt even know about until I asked my mom following this thread) and here I am in my own beliefs (that would contradict those of the Church to which I was dedicated).
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Are you just trying to be argumentative on this subject?
Of course not.. why would you ask me?
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There are lots and lots of people who go to church on Christmas, mothers/fathers day and Easter and believe that they are Christians. Does not make it so!
And I would hope that no one is arguing that very obvious point.
The difference is that many people simply go to church as a social thing to do because it is part of their belief. Go to church more as a social/moral obligation and follow the church tradition.
Other people go to church with with a real desire to follow Christ and be and live an example.
Big difference in head knowledge and a heart relationship. BIG difference. so many people in church's today can tell you how to get saved but i wonder how many really are. So many show up for the "Christian Holidays" but they have NO relationship with the Lord Jesus. .....I want my walk to be from the heart..not the head. Going to church never DID save a soul......going to church and having the Holy Spirit convict and enlighten certainly has saved many! It is the same with dedicating our children....it won't save the child..but it is a step the Lord can see and I don't think He takes it lightly. That is my opinion...
[quote=DrJizzle;1828547]I dont go to church and I am fully entitled to my opinion. This "Christian" forum is not restricted to posts BY Christians... simply posts ABOUT Christianity.
.. or, in my personal opinion, even worse.. a Pentecostal Church. [quote]
So it is, But you do not have the right to go around making uneducated snide remarks about a persons Christianity or church without being called on the carpet for it.
If you want to debate different religions within the christian faith, by all means start a new thread. or stick to the topic without your editorializing remarks.
So it is, But you do not have the right to go around making uneducated snide remarks about a persons Christianity or church without being called on the carpet for it.
If you want to debate different religions within the christian faith, by all means start a new thread. or stick to the topic without your editorializing remarks.
My remark was neither uneducated nor snide.
And I am free to speak my opinion just as you are free to "call me on the carpet" all you wish.
If we were discussing child dedication in the Church of Satan, I am sure you would have a similar opinion and feel the freedom to voice it.
mudweise,
The idea of that comes from the bible.
Jesus was one of thousands of children that were dedicated to God as the Holy Scripture instructed.
In other cases a child born was believed to be the Lord's and the parent could buy back the child who would work on the farm or whatever.
It is an ancient practice.
Another is as the child ages giving that child the opportunity to be exposed to various faiths to see if the child is interested in any of them.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
As a Christian I believe that our son is God's son, 'cause He gave him to us.
So when our son was born, me and my wife stood outside under the night sky, I lifted him up towards the sky and said , '' Lord, this is the son that you gave us and his name shall be called ....We thank You and dedicate him to You because he is Your's and we ask You to help us raise him the way You want us to, so that You can glorify Yourself in him''.
But this comes from people who have faith in Jesus Christ.Also this is not a must but I think that this comes as a need after I realize that raising a child is out of my hands and I am totally unworthy and uncapeable.
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