Pertaining to sin

N0help4u · Jul 28, 2009, 02:52 PM

Your friend sounds brainwashed by mans religion. I do believe that there is only one way and one truth but he can not be claiming his church has the ONLY WAY.
I believe people are going to be surprised on judgment day.

The Bible says in the last day that many will say Lord, Lord didn't we do these great works in your name and He will say depart from me.

The Bible says seek and you shall find not follow some man made tradition and you will be the right one.

The Bible says God has mercy on whom he will have mercy so I can't account for what about the ones who never heard.
People that condemn because they think they have all the answers are just plain wrong.

-Seven- · Jul 28, 2009, 03:10 PM

Hence why I'm not worried. I personally have a great inner knowing of things. I'm a little more interested in seeing the perspective of those who do believe this, I'm not here to judge though.

450donn · Jul 28, 2009, 03:16 PM

But, unless you have a personal relationship with God and his son Jesus, the bible tells us that your name will not written in the book of life. Church is mans attempts at reaching God. Having a personal relationship is way Gods way of knowing you.

Fr_Chuck · Jul 28, 2009, 04:52 PM

Most Chrsitian denominations teach that you are only saved by accepting Christ as your Saviour.
You don't have to do anything to go to hell, you are going there if you have not accepted Christ.

We are all sinners so it is not any one sin, it is all the sin in our life.

So yes, if you have not accepted Christ then you are not saved.

-Seven- · Jul 28, 2009, 05:11 PM

By Christ do you mean Jesus? Or of christening itself? And if Jesus (by which I'm pretty sure you are pertaining to), is there anything in the bible that makes a distinct clarification that Jesus is the one and only soul proprietor of christening in existence, of all future, past, and present?

And with that aside, what are your definitions of christ?

(these questions are for everyone)

s_cianci · Jul 28, 2009, 05:17 PM

I believe that God will say "ignorance is no excuse", same as the municipal court judge says when you say "but your honor, I didn't know the speed limit was only 50." Now, I certainly don't believe that not being of the denomination of Church of Christ is a sin and it will take some awfully long (and ultimately fruitless) searching of the scriptures to convince me otherwise.

-Seven- · Jul 28, 2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by s_cianci

I believe that God will say "ignorance is no excuse", same as the municipal court judge says when you say "but your honor, I didn't know the speed limit was only 50." Now, I certainly don't believe that not being of the denomination of Church of Christ is a sin and it will take some awfully long (and ultimately fruitless) searching of the scriptures to convince me otherwise.

Are you saying that each and every possible sin imaginable is recognizable to any and everyone, and that every conscious entity capable of committing sin has always and ever will be subject to an environment that would surely make this concept of sin, forgiveness, and admittance to heaven available?

Sorry if I seem overly critical, I just like to be thorough, it's the way I think. I'm not biased.

N0help4u · Jul 28, 2009, 05:33 PM

No it means you have no excuse for living in your sin and not accepting Christ.
Many people hear about God and refuse to give up their sin because they like their lifestyle. Its about rejecting Christ you remain in your sinful nature.
People who never heard of Christ they may be under Gods mercy. But choosing your way and rejecting Christ makes you a sinner. Most people who would do this will in the end try and claim 'but I didn't know'. That is basically what S_cianni is saying.

s_cianci · Jul 28, 2009, 05:36 PM

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Are you saying that each and every possible sin imaginable is recognizable to any and everyone, and that every conscious entity capable of committing sin has always and ever will be subject to an environment that would surely make this concept of sin, forgiveness, and admittance to heaven available?

No, absolutely not ; in fact, I'm basically saying the exact opposite of this, that there will be many who will always be ignorant to sin and to the concepts of forgiveness and repentance. But I'm also asserting that God will not buy that ; he won't say "OK, well you didn't know any better so it's alright", much the same as the traffic court analogy I used in my first response. No judge would ever say "well, you didn't know you were breaking the law, so it's OK. You don't have to pay the fine [or serve the time, whatever.]" That's my take on it. A judge is called a judge for a reason, just like we use the word judge to describe God's actions for a reason.

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