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Old Aug 10, 2007, 02:30 AM
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the law of non contradiction

why do others think the law of non contradiction proves christianity wheras irrationality does not

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Old Aug 10, 2007, 02:31 AM   #2  
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What does Shaeffer have to say about the law of non contradiction
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Old Aug 10, 2007, 02:40 AM   #3  
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The law of non-contradiction is indemonstrable (neither verifiable nor falsifiable) in that anyone who attempts to disprove it must use the law itself, and thus beg the question. In this way it can be said to be undeniable, that is, literally impossible to deny. The law is impossible to prove for the same reason, since one has to use the law to prove the law, and this is a circular argument.
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Old Aug 10, 2007, 05:26 AM   #4  
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I beleive it is foolish to even try and prove something to those who refuse to beleive. Christianity is based on faith, pure and simple. The facts that God created man, that Jesus died and came back from the dead. And that we are saved by beleving this. There is no way to prove this to anyone because it has to be a matter of faith.
Using mans logic and trying to prove it, will never convince those who have closed thier hearts to the truth.

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will never convince those who have closed thier hearts to the truth.
I have a beautiful open heart Father, I believe that what you wrote is not the truth, therefore my truth is correct.
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Who thinks the law of noncontradiction proves Christianity? One can't "prove Christianity" as you put it, it must be experienced - you have to take that "leap of faith" to know. As for irrationality, that's subjective. What's rational or irrational to you may not be rational or irrational to me.

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Christianity is a religion, a faith; religion is based on *emotion*, not of rationality or facts.

Christianity is for comfort, not for logic class, if one can find comfort in any religion where the supreme GodAlmighty will torture human beings for **eternity**.

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inthebox agrees: the torture is being separated from the one who loves you, for all eternity
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Christianity is a religion, a faith; religion is based on *emotion*, not of rationality or facts.

In your opinion. I find it irrational to keep telling me and millions of others our faith is based on emotion. You have no idea as you cannot attest to my experience.

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Christianity is for comfort, not for logic class, if one can find comfort in any religion where the supreme GodAlmighty will torture human beings for **eternity**.

Faith in God gives hope, which certainly is comforting, but I find it illogical to not believe in God considering all the evidence around us every day. Separation from God for eternity would most certainly be torturous, but that's your choice.
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I find it illogical to not believe in God considering all the evidence around us every day
What evidence would that be?

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. Separation from God for eternity would most certainly be torturous, but that's your choice.
Tortuous in what way? I'm having a great life! Perhaps you would suffer but others would not.
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What evidence would that be?

Been there, done that, your mind is made up.

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Tortuous in what way? I'm having a great life! Perhaps you would suffer but others would not.

I'm having a great life, too. I also plan on having a great eternal life some day in the presence of God.
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