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Old May 6, 2006, 04:31 AM
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National ID

Has anyone heard of the National ID and "the mark of the beast"? what are your thoughts?

WorldNetDaily: Is coming national ID
'mark of the beast'?

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Old May 6, 2006, 09:59 AM   #2  
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Since the mark of the Beast would have to be International it would not merely be a card for one nation.

And honesty we already have basicly national id's. Each state has an id card, drivers licence, which are all in a national data base.

as a person who was a police officer in a major city before I will say when you stop people on the street and they have no ID ( or say they don't) you often let dangous and wanted people go because you can't ID them.

People use different names, and so on. A day to prove who people are is really needed.

The mark of the best when one reads it, it is a mark upon the forehead and upon the hands, the forehead has always stood for what we think and the hands for the work we do.

So the mark is most likely the world thinking and working on the ideas of evil.
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That is exactly the way I read it. Thank you for making it make sense.
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I would not equate the two at all.
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Please understand every generation has had thier idea. and really we all already have a national ID card, one that you can't even work, have a bank account without and more, it is called a social security card,

If any "one thing" from our government fit the idea of a mark, it would be that card and number. It fits the idea that you can not work or buy without it.
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Actually, Great Briton is still in the process of issuing their national ID cards and the United States is going to next year I believe... as soon as the Senate passes it, which is no problem since as you can see, no one here knows about it! With this new system, the card will be your driver licence, bank guarantee card and a prerequsite for employment. So, if you do not accept it, no work, no eat! The thing is, I am just simply amazed at the amount of good folks that don't even know this is happening and would they try to stop it any way? I asked the ladies down at the DMV if it would be comming soon and they just stated that they hoped not because of the great amount of work it will cause them!

National ID Cards Won't Stop Terroism or Illegal Immigration -- Dr. Ron Paul

If you read this web page and still do not think we are heading for the mark of the beast, tell me why. As you can see, everything is happening for a reason. That is some mighty fine planning and execution by the dark powers that be. Notice the demonstrations in the streets by hispanics wanting to take back the southwestern U.S. When fear is in control, anything is accepted to stop the threat! Ignorance of course, is the best means of control!
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The prophet Daniel received two visions of the march of world powers. One was of a statue whose parts were of different metals. The other was of wild beasts which represented governments as they emerged on the world stage. The reason that the mark of the wild beast that the apostle John is shown is seen as being one which indicates political support of worldly governments in preference to God's Kingdom is because the wild beast mentioned in Revelation is a composite representation of the beasts mentioned by Daniel.

The Mark of the Beast


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Both the statue and the beast representing the world's governments are shown as having God's disaproval and ultimately meet the same fate.
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This is one of the reasons I don't believe in religion. In my opinion this is just carrying interpretations of passages in the Bible to extremes. Its conspiracy theory run rampant. And its a crock...

Anyone who wants to see gremlins in the woodwork can find them if they look hard enough.

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REAL ID goes way beyond that. It's a huge power-grab by the federal government over the states' systems for issuing driver's licenses.

One of my fears is that this new uniform driver's license will bring a new level of "show me your papers" echoes of Hitler, checks by the government. Already you can't fly without an ID, even though no one has ever explained how that ID check makes airplane terrorism any harder.


New Hampshire agrees does not want National ID.

New Hampshire House Passes Anti-REAL ID Bill. The New Hampshire House of Representatives has just passed HB 1582, an act "prohibiting New Hampshire from participating in a national identification card system." If the measure passes the state Senate, New Hampshire will be the first state to reject the REAL ID Act, which sets federal standards for state driver's licenses, essentially making them national ID cards. According to a recent survey (pdf) of state motor vehicle administrators, the costs of implementation have been vastly underestimated by the federal government, which initially put the total price at $100 million. Pennsylvania alone would spend $85 million on REAL ID, the survey found. (Apr. 17)

Since when the Federal Government has the right to dictate to an individual or to a Sovereign state, their own form of government is the only government. I am under to assumption that the government is to help the people not hinder them.

What happen to the Bill of Rights? Does the Federal Government obey the Constitution? NO!

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to “ourselves and our posterity,” do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

The National ID Act is more of the FEDs control over everyone and everything. People must stand up and tell the government you don't want it. It is your right to tell them.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Take a stand people, email, call or write your congressman or representative and tell THEM -NO NATIONAL ID!



Social SecurityCard was never to be use for Id. In 1977, the Carter Administration reiterated that the SSN was not to become an identifier

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magprob agrees: Right on Mr.Yet. I am calling mine and everyone else's! There is a conspiracy to lock down and control the masses. Biblically speaking or not.
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The beast is said to arise from the sea.

Isaiah 57:20
But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.

Another Gremlin?
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