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Thats absolutely correct phillysteak but then that is where the new micro chips come in. If we had the chip implanted in our body, we could be observed by satelite-but then there I go again being a whacked out radical. Why in GOD's name would they want to know where I am 24/7 ? Do you really think this national ID thing could evolve into the government implanting chips in us so we could be under 24/7 survalence as well as be scanned in the check out line at Ralphs or Piggly Wiggly or the 7 Eleven? Or, will there only be Wall Mart were you can buy everything under one roof. From China!
I cashed a check today and I stood there with a handful of "funny money." It's all pink and red and...funny looking. A minor thing really but still proof that the system is gradually moving towards something much different than we are used to. Money is really nothing nor does it have any value except the value the government tells us it has. Money is their biggest leverage in the game of power. They make it, distribute it and pull it back depending upon the outcome they desire. I could go back to the barter system TODAY and be just fine. That cannot be allowed though. Without the fear of not having enough of their power, money, we know we face certian death. When that is completely controled, the masses are completely controlled.
I guess the only thing that stays the same is that everything changes. First a national ID card, then, since the bad guys or terrorist ( EVIL DOERS) can get around that, what next? Computer chips implanted under your skin I'll bet.
Since my response is clearly personal opinion and cannot be proven factually either way, your disagreement goes against the guidelines many other regulars agree on. Of course those were only suggestions and you are free to comment as you wish.
Second, I haven't a clue what the comment itself means. What were my comments ignorant of? What about my comments can be proven factually incorrect? I maintain that the comment was totally offbase, unprovable and was done only as a personal attack against me.
I personaly could'nt care less if someone disagrees with me. It happens all the time and I guess I have gotten used to it. Why heck, it accually makes things more interesting since we are trying to get to the bottom of a certain subject and it is stimulating to hear people's passion concerning that subject. I get the feeling though, that some people take this way to close to the heart and feel that their "expert" status is being threatened. I hope no one would come hunting down a person that disagreed with them as a matter of pride! I have only disagreed with people a few times but one in particular became furious with me. I got the sense that this is really the only public out let that that person has to feel important and the only place they feel that they are being listened to. If that is your lot in life...then I say you should try to become an expert at getting a life. Let's just put our ideas out there and if they get shot down, then maybe it was a bad idea. Time to reevalute or just realize the sad fact that you are 100% right and the rest of the world are fools! In any case, accept the fact that you may be an expert at one or maybe two things, if you are an over acheiver, but no one is expert in everything. So, I guess we really have no idea as to the National ID question?
I would volunteer - in a heartbeat - to have an implated ID chip that was accepted as proof of my true identity. But I'm a geek...
How many people would not volunteer though? And it is simply not possible to "force" the entire population to get an implanted ID chip.
If you're a geek then you know that some cracker is bound to hack a RFID receiver that will defeat the encription of the RFID chips. That way I, the ex-wife, your employer or the gang member down the street who wants your Lexus can track you 24/7.
There's a good parallel on that point with using a cell phone...
It is techniaclly possible to track someone with their cell phone already. Cell phones have already been hacked and numbers stolen, caller ID can be faked blocked or otherwise tampered with, yet the majority of the world doesn't shun carrying a cell phone or hesitate to use one. In areas of the world, you nee to use a cell phone or satellite phone to communicate with the rest of the planet.
When I was a teenager, it was fake ID's. Now - you're talking fake RFID's.
I get what you are saying - and I agree - but I think many of these fears of identity theft and information in-security are already in play. It's just different technologies the "bad guys" are trying to break.
OK...you geeks lost me. Please explain "turf it" and just what capabilities anyone might have to listen in on my calls. I do know that all calls are sent through a huge computer data base and key words are picked up on and when they are, the number is logged as a phone number of interest. But in all reality, I don't beleive anyone can listen to every call. That would take man power beyond the scope of reality. But then again, our tax (gas) dollars at work. Also, please explain fake RIFD.
All cellphones have a unique ID which can be faked on another cell phone that can then make and receive calls acting as the original phone.
"Turf it" is a colloquial expression meaning "get rid of it".
A fake RFID (Radio Frequency IDentification) would be chip implanted on your body that would broadcast an ID different that the one assigned to you - basically the equivalent of a fake passport.
I like it! So I can go incognito as Bill Gates or anyone I wish. But, can a hacker actually reconfigure an RIFD? Kinda like changing the cmos in your computer? Flashing? I think it is called. I like the term Turf It, but what ever happened to "kick it to the curb?" I must be getting old! It's hard to keep up! Any way, I suppose that for every new tech thinggie, there is a way to get around it, so where does it stop?
If control of the huge masses of people is the goal, can a government, with that as their goal, acheive that end? Or, will the hackers of the world simply foil their best laid plans and create nothing but confusion? I beleive the hackers that do so will suffer great penalties for their actions. The government will consider them the real evil doers and terrorist.
A national I D card is no answer to their problem of control. It will not work. However, it is just a stepping stone to the RIFD chip being implanted in everyone. Once it is implanted, do you think a hacker can alter it?
So, I guess we really have no idea as to the National ID question?
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