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As I have not read the Bible nor done a comparative study,I wonder what the Bible says about Muhammad.
I believe that the original Armeniac(hope that is the right spelling) Bible will have some mention of our Prophet (pbuh)
I was wondering about the Bibles available today.
I have read different articles regarding this and I found that it seems that there is a verse in Isaiah about a book being revealed to an unlettered person and is asked to read when it is replied that he is not learned.
This seems to match with the description of Muhammad(pbuh) because he was unlettered and he was asked to recite,but replies that he is unlettered.
Could someone give reference for this, or am I wrong.
I'm sure if you're determined, you can find something somewhere in the Bible that you can interpret as a prophecy about Muhammad. My question is, why would you bother?
Why is it necessary to write (pbuh) after every mention of the Prophet? Is it some kind of rule or something? And I notice you have another thing you write after every mention of Jesus. What's up with that?
Pbuh-Peace be upon him-abbreviation in english for the words sallallahu alaihi wasallam, which means "May the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him." When the name of Prophet Muhammad is mentioned, Muslims show respect to him by reciting this statement of peace.
After all other Prophets and angels names we say-Alaihi salaam-means may peace be upon him in order to show respect.
About bothering to find out if a previous scripture mentions Muhammad (pbuh) is not something I am trying to force anyone to see or find, it is just for my reference.
As I said before the Quran mentions that he(pbuh) was mentioned in the previous scriptures and I accept/believe that, I was inquiring about the present day Bibles.
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Originally Posted by BABRAM
Are you kidding me?! I have never read anything in the Torah specifically positive concerning Muhammed. Not one single parashah in all the Shabbos ever! There are scriptures warning against false prophets in general though.
Since this is the Christianity board the following link is from the Christian's perspective:
I was just wondering isnt Jesus(alaihi salaam)mentioned in the Torah, but yet from what I know Jews do not accept him as Prophet.
Could you shed some light on that, is my information wrong?
I was just wondering isnt Jesus mentioned in the Torah, but yet from what I know Jews do not accept him as Prophet.
Could you shed some light on that, is my information wrong?
Why would you think that Jesus is mentioned in the Torah, if as you claim in the original question, you have not read the Bible?! Now as for Jesus being mentioned, not according to Rabbinical Judaism. However, Jesus is read about in the Christian New Testament.
Why would you think that Jesus is mentioned in the Torah, if as you claim in the original question, you have not read the Bible?! Now as for Jesus being mentioned, not according to Rabbinical Judaism. However, Jesus is read about in the Christian New Testament.
Bobby
Is the Christian New Testament used by Jews too?
I have not read the Bible, but I do read different articles written by different people regarding the monotheistic faiths.
Do bear with my ignorance on Jewish scriptures and Christian Scriptures.
As I said before the Quran mentions that he(pbuh) was mentioned in the previous scriptures and I accept/believe that, I was inquiring about the present day Bibles.
Does it say specifically which of the "previous scriptures" he (pbuh) is mentioned in? If it says that it is in the Torah, specifically, then I guess you are duty bound to find a reference there; if it's not specific, I guess all scriptures from all the world's religions are open to your search.
Jews find no references to either Jesus or Muhammad in the Torah. Christians find references to Jesus, but not Muhammad. I'm sure Muslims can, if they wish, find references to both, not only in the Torah, but in the New Testament, the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, the Tao Teh King or any other text that is accepted as scripture by any religion whatsoever. Prophecy is in the eye of the beholder.
Does it say specifically which of the "previous scriptures" he (pbuh) is mentioned in? If it says that it is in the Torah, specifically, then I guess you are duty bound to find a reference there; if it's not specific, I guess all scriptures from all the world's religions are open to your search.
Jews find no references to either Jesus or Muhammad in the Torah. Christians find references to Jesus, but not Muhammad. I'm sure Muslims can, if they wish, find references to both, not only in the Torah, but in the New Testament, the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, the Tao Teh King or any other text that is accepted as scripture by any religion whatsoever. Prophecy is in the eye of the beholder.
NO.
Quran chapter 7;verse 157
"Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e.Muhammad SAW) whom they find written with them in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) , - he commands them for Al-Ma'rűf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm has ordained); and forbids them from Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief, polytheism of all kinds, and all that Islâm has forbidden); he allows them as lawful At-Taiyibât [(i.e. all good and lawful) as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons, foods, etc.], and prohibits them as unlawful Al-Khabâ'ith (i.e. all evil and unlawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons, foods, etc.), he releases them from their heavy burdens (of Allâh's Covenant), and from the fetters (bindings) that were upon them. So those who believe in him (Muhammad SAW), honour him, help him, and follow the light (the Qur'ân) which has been sent down with him, it is they who will be successful"
"Prophecy is in the eye of the beholder", is that sarcasm I sense....
"Prophecy is in the eye of the beholder", is that sarcasm I sense....
No, just a recognition that we can always find whatever we feel compelled to find. The danger in over-reliance on holy books is that it's so easy to overlook our own role in interpreting what we read, so that we come away convinced that God agrees with us, when in reality all we have done is dress our preconceptions up in fancy clothes.
No, just a recognition that we can always find whatever we feel compelled to find. The danger in over-reliance on holy books is that it's so easy to overlook our own role in interpreting what we read, so that we come away convinced that God agrees with us, when in reality all we have done is dress our preconceptions up in fancy clothes.
Ok,
Sorry if I misunderstood.
About being convinced that God agrees with us, for me I find that I am not trying to dress my preconceptions with what the Almighty has revealed.
But I submit and bow down to His guidelines, and His revelations and His Messengers and Prophets(peace be upon them all) and accept His decree in all matters.
So I am not trying to twist things to fit my needs and views,
but I am just researching for knowledge sake because Allah always asks the believers to ask and find out from those in the know about some of the matters we do not know.Like the sciences, original scriptures of the people of the Book(Jews and Christians) etc.
Quran chapter 7;verse 157
"Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e.Muhammad SAW) whom they find written with them in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) , ....
Let's start here. I could go to other references in the Koran also which points to the Christian gospel. So, that being the case, why have you not taken the time to go to the gospel and see what it says? If the Koran points to the gospel then why don't we look at what the gospel has to say.
Here is the Apostle Paul's summary of the gospel:
1 Cor 15:1-11
15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you--unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve. 6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have fallen asleep. 7 After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles. 8 Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one born out of due time. 9 For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. 11 Therefore, whether it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.
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Let's start here. I could go to other references in the Koran also which points to the Christian gospel. So, that being the case, why have you not taken the time to go to the gospel and see what it says? If the Koran points to the gospel then why don't we look at what the gospel has to say.
Here is the Apostle Paul's summary of the gospel:
1 Cor 15:1-11
15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you--unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve. 6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have fallen asleep. 7 After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles. 8 Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one born out of due time. 9 For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. 11 Therefore, whether it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.
NKJV
Thanks,
I do not need to study and learn the Bibles in existence today in such detail,nor do I have to believe in the crucification of Jesus(alaihi salaam),because the Quran states otherwise.
I just needed to know references made regarding Muhammad (pbuh)in the scriptures.
I do not need to study and learn the Bibles in existence today in such detail,nor do I have to believe in the crucification of Jesus(alaihi salaam),because the Quran states otherwise.
I just needed to know references made regarding Muhammad (pbuh)in the scriptures.
Al-Imran 3:3 He has sent down upon thee the Book with the truth, confirming what was before it; and He sent down the Law Torah and the Gospel (of Jesus) aforetime, as guidance to the people, and He sent down Salvation.
Since the gospel came from God for the guidance and salvation of mankind according to the Koran, how can you deny its importance?
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