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Old Jun 18, 2009, 04:49 AM
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Jesus Vs Tradition

How did Jesus fight the tradition and made the religion more relational?

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Jesus fought religion and religious tradition, he also said the pharisees and sadducees father was the devil. That only people who were not blind could see this. So basically I would say he left the false religions to their own path and only the true believers to see the light.

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sndbay agrees: The leaven in following man's doctrine or following Christ the unleaven bread. (Matthew 16:11-Matthew 16:12)
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Jesus was never angry with the theives or prostitutes. His righteous anger was directed solely at the "good church folk" who "acted" pious but cared little for their fellow man. The leaders saw the people as sheep they could use and take advantage of - which they did. Jesus saw the theives, prostitutes etc. as at least being honest about the lack of God in their life. The leaders professed to know God but did not.
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itsmemaths,
Jesus opposed the traditions of men who added to the law such as no work of any kind on the Sabbath.
But the traditions of God He kept and started or added to His own such as holy baptism and the Holy Eucharist.
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Really Fred?
It's recorded that Jesus never baptized anybody Though John the Baptizer and others obviously did before Jesus ministry. And I've read all through 16 versions of the bible and don't even know what "Eucharist" is.
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How did Jesus fight the tradition and made the religion more relational?
Which religion are you referring to? Jesus was a Jew so are you asking if he was trying to make Judiasm more relational? As far as I'm aware, Jesus did not set out to or try to establish a new religion, that was done by his disciples after his death and alleged resurrection.
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Really Fred?
It's recorded that Jesus never baptized anybody Though John the Baptizer and others obviously did before Jesus ministry.
By what is written in (Matthew 28:18 ) Jesus was given all power on earth and heaven. And Christ told His disciples in (Matthew 28:19-20) go teach and baptize. Plus Christ said teach all, to observe all, that I have commanded.

However, my faith and trust in baptism would rest in what Christ said, and how Christ was shown as the path to follow. Hearing HIS voice as sheep that follow HIM.
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itsmemaths,
Jesus opposed the traditions of men who added to the law such as no work of any kind on the Sabbath.
But the traditions of God He kept and started or added to His own such as holy baptism and the Holy Eucharist.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
We are called to obtain the gospel of Jesus Christ. (2 Th 2:14) That would be in the calling of salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth that is written.

It does not mean by any man's doctrine that is corruptable. We are told to stand fast, and hold the traditions which the disciples, and apostles were taught, by reveal truth of God. Noting all as being whether by the word, or their epistle. Peter himself was said by Christ, to hold that reveal truth when Peter confirmed to Christ 3 times that he loved Christ and was told to follow as Christ himself had followed HIS Father in glory.
(John 21)(Matthew 16:17)

Fred, I don't see where Christ added to baptism, because it is noted in scripture being John and Christ, both suffered it as fulfilled in righteousness. (Matthew 3:15)

As for the Holy Communion we acknowledge that Christ brought us a way through the veil. That what was once by priests alone once a year through gifts and sacrifices of blood at the altar (Hebrew 9:6-9)

Christ brought a new and living way, which HE consecrated for us. That His body takes us through the veil (Hebrews 10:20), and His blood is the blood of the New Testament that finished it(Matthew 26:28) (John 19:30)
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sndbay,
I agree.
But please note that Jesus commanded his followers to go out and baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Prior to that Jews used baptism as a cleaning ritual.
So Jesus made it a sacrament by adding the authority of the triune God to it.
Peace and kindness,
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No it is not recorded that Jesus did not do any Baptisms. It merely does not list any he did. But no where do I remember it saying he never did.
Paul speaks of not doing many.

But in fact Jesus actually did follow many of the important church traditions. He went to the temple, taugh followed passover traditions, and since he entered the temple he would have also went though the rites of purification to be allowed to enter.
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