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Old Jun 18, 2009, 04:49 AM
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Jesus Vs Tradition

How did Jesus fight the tradition and made the religion more relational?

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Old Jun 25, 2009, 04:24 PM   #101  
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you are right. but doesnt God want us to spread the word? the holy spirit cannot come into someones heart if they do not hear the word.....right?
That is what I do. The Holy Spirit can work on someone's heart, and prepare them to receive the truth, but those who are saved are to bring the truth. In the end though, the Holy Spirit will not force Himself on anyone.
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Old Jun 26, 2009, 10:38 AM   #102  
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exactly. im still working on that in myself. im natually a shy person (unless im on line) and so its difficult for me to spread His Word sometimes because i get flustered. not embarrassed, im not embarrassed of my Lord or getting His word out. but i just get all tongue tied. ive been praying about it and im getting better at it. its easy on line however


as far as jesus vs tradtition, the question did not make alot of sense to me, but ill answer best i can understand it.

jesus faught tradition in the ways he interacted with other people. both his followers, and the non believers. he treated his fellow man as equals. believing that NO ONE was better or worse than another. and i feel that this included HIMSELF. he never tried to say or even imply that he was better than his fellow man because he was the son of god. he believed we were ALL the same in the eyes of our lord.

at least thats how i understand it.


as for the religeon part of the question i dont fully understand what the OP means, so i dotn feel prepared to answer it accordingling.
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Assuming September 29th is correct, then how does this affect the holiness of the Roman Catholic Church?

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I thought we were discussing tradition, not holiness.
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I thought we were discussing tradition, not holiness.
We were, but give me a few minutes - I'm in the middle of a report - I'll define Holy Tradition.
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I'm sorry jenniepepsi, but I must take exception to your statement above.

Jesus said things about Himself that could not be said of anyone else.

John 10:30
30 I and my Father are one.
(KJV)

(He claimed equality with God the Father)

John 8:46
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
(KJV)

(He claimed to be free from sin)

Conversely, He said this about (some of) the Jews.

John 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
(KJV)

There is an infinite gap between the Son of God and children of the devil.
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i stand corrected galveston. i apologies. i still have alot of learning to do

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galveston agrees: Keep learning. None of us has all the answers.
homesell agrees: I have all the answers but many of them are wrong answers and I just don't know which ones.
N0help4u agrees: Phil 2:5-11
sndbay agrees: To the full assurance and treasure that God revels unto those who seek. (Col 2:2-5) may hearts have comfort, and understanding.
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Well you were right too JP in a way

Phl 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Phl 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Phl 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Phl 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Phl 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

Phl 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth;

Phl 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

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jenniepepsi agrees: thats sorta what i meant but i couldnt think of how to explain it thank you :)
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Old Jun 28, 2009, 02:57 AM   #108  
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Go with following Christ Jesus

John 19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

Following in thirst of HIS WORD

(Matthew 10:42) (John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. )


Think of it, to the very end, it was shown any other man can not give what Christ has given us in HIS WORD/HIS FLESH..
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Old Jun 29, 2009, 09:15 AM   #109  
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good points sndbay!

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Old Jun 29, 2009, 11:22 AM   #110  
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To the OP.

Jesus fought the traditions of the Jews (Talmud) by presenting absolute TRUTH.

And that truth is HIMSELF.

Once we have made Him our LORD (boss) and study what He said and did to become disciples, we understand the difference between truth and tradition.

While tradition may sometimes convey some truth, it is not the same thing as truth, and should never be given the same weight in our considerations.
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