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Obviously you are not reading what I have posted and said. Go back to read post #69 that does reference Luke 12:51-52. The division is between evil and godly.
The Father Son and Holy Spirit delivered what is possible in godly unity by faith. Eph 4:5-6 One Lord, one Faith, one Baptism One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
To confirm what I posted refer: Posting #78
Well Ok, I stand corrected. But, if you weren't so confounded cryptic I wouldn't make that kind of mistake.
In what way is the baptism Jesus taught diffrent from what the Chruch teaches?
Baptism was suffered by both John and Christ. (Matthew 3:15-16) And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water.
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And what dates would you prefer for Christ's birthday?
September 29
From Conception, according to Jewish reckoning 280 days. AND Gentile reckoning 280 The chart of birth offered:
Day JEWISH Month Gentile Day
1 Tebeth 1st ( Dec 25-26) December 7days
2 Dec 26-27
3 Dec 27-28
8 Tebeth 8th ( Jan 1-2 )
Tebeth total 29 days
Sebat 30 days January 31 days
Adar 29 days February 29 days
Nisan 30 March 31
Zif 29 April 30
Sivan 30 May 31
Thammuz 29 June 30
AB 30 July 31
Elul 29 August 31
Ethanim 15 September 29
280 280 280
Concluded: 15TH of ETHANIM = SEPTEMBER 29, EMMUNUAL BORN
Luke 1:26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth Luke 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. Luke 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
Luke 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
Luke 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
PlusLuke 2:2 thr 2:7 give evidence to register of tax which was the first tax made by Cyrenius under the emperor Caesar Augustus Luke 2:1... The Roman government keep documents for these registeries. and the time frame of this new first and new tax.
sufficiency in conception being Dec 24 on the eve of Mary's journey to her cousin Elizabeth. Elizabeth by scripture was with her Priest husband who was scheduled according to the course as written.
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The first Easter was on Passover, remember?
Have you read how the single word Easter was determined, and then written in place of Passover. Christ and the disciples spoke of Passover , and it was called Passover feast. Refer: 1 Cr 5:7Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us
Doctrine refers to the knowledge imparted by teaching. It’s has the same meaning as catechesis. ‘Doctrine’ is a principle taught, not an the establishment of the principle. The principles taught by the Roman Catholic Church are Divine morals and ethics.
Manmade if not found in scripture.
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Baptism is an absolute necessity to enter into the Kingdom of God. : Amen, amen, I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God (John 3:5) i.e., principle taught by Christ.
Jesus explained here, as you were shown previously, that he was speaking of the physical birth and then being born again in the spirit. Nowhere in scripture does it say that water baptism is essential for salvation. If so, then Jesus lied to the thief on the cross, and there would be no hope for any of the OT saints.
(Luke 12:51) - "Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division; 52 for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two, and two against three..."
Most people that have used times and events in the Bible have come up with September 29th as Jesus' birth day.
There are many who start the 40 week count during the feast of Purim, depending on the year about 14 and 15 Adar (Feb.-March). Purim is a feast commemorating freedom; the deliverance recorded in the Book of Esther - interesting Christ is conceived to free us during the feast of freedom. As I've been told this gets us within a few days of Dec. 25. Even still, it's just as questionable as anyother computation.
Assuming September 29th is correct, then how does this affect the holiness of the Roman Catholic Church?
i think you guys could argue and argue and argue and you will NEVER convince eachother that one of you is absolutely correct.
The truth is that I am not going to convince anyone of a spiritual truth - it is only the work of the Holy Spirit on the heart of someone else who is willing to submit to God word that will convince another person of the truth found in God's word. Some use God word as the standard of truth (as I do), others rely on the teachings of the men in leadership of their church, and others rely upon other men for their teachings.
The truth is that I am not going to convince anyone of a spiritual truth - it is only the work of the Holy Spirit on the heart of someone else who is willing to submit to God word that will convince another person of the truth found in God's word.
you are right. but doesnt God want us to spread the word? the holy spirit cannot come into someones heart if they do not hear the word.....right?
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