Are Jesus and God the same?

Lady Priv · Oct 1, 2007, 06:38 AM

I have learned that Jesus is God's son but I have also seen where people talk about God and Jesus as if they were the same person. Does it depend on the religion?

NeedKarma · Oct 2, 2007, 07:53 AM

But you said "very soon".

mix786 · Oct 2, 2007, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Priv

I have learned that Jesus is God's son but I have also seen where people talk about God and Jesus as if they were the same person. Does it depend on the religion?

it depend on the religion

mix786 · Oct 2, 2007, 08:09 AM

ok me saying very soon
well i was over reacting sorry
but times look like this that he will
i dont know

Tj3 · Oct 2, 2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Monstertruck

Jesus is the son of god they are not equal, but related.

Phil 2:5-8
5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
NKJV

Jesus is one of three persons of the trinity and is equal to God the Father.

Wangdoodle · Oct 2, 2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady Priv

Hello Wangdoodle I was not asking about a certain denomination. Your second answer makes sense Thank You. I am taking a world religion class and the more I learn the more I questions I have. In one of our assignments we were asked if we think the Christian religion have become diluted because of all the denominations. Does anyone have an opinion on this. I think they have because I think of it as Buddha who did not like the answers to the questions he had so he made his own religious practices. Well with the Christian faith it is like when someone does not like the answer they were given by their church so they made a new one. Please correct me if I am wrong on this. thanks

I am of the same opinion as you on this. Christianity has splintered of in many ways over the last 1970 years or so since Christ’s death and resurrection. I think in most cases, it is more complicated than just not liking the answer from their church. In some cases it may be a small matter, other cases it’s a major break in doctrine. There are a lot of people in the world, and you are sure to get as many interpretations of the Bible as there are people. We are all individuals after all. It is sad to me that there are such divisions. It is my prayer that we Christians could be one, truly and fully brothers and sisters in Christ.

paraclete · Oct 3, 2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady Priv

I have learned that Jesus is God's son but I have also seen where people talk about God and Jesus as if they were the same person. Does it depend on the religion?

perhaps, LDS and JW certainly don't see Jesus and The Father as the same, however Christians believe in the Trinity, a way of seeing God as one God, but manifest as three persons, the Father (creator) the Son (Saviour) and the Holy Spirit (counsellor).

That the Father and the Son are the same is without doubt as the Father in the Old Testament and the Son in the New Testament both say I am your salvation. If they were different they could not both be our salvation, and Jesus said unless he went (to the Father) the Holy Spirit could not come so it is apparent that the Holy Spirit is also the same God.

mix786 · Oct 9, 2007, 08:52 AM

We can't change what people from different religions think on that.
but we will see who is right or wrong later on

CareBearsRule · Oct 9, 2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Priv

I have learned that Jesus is God's son but I have also seen where people talk about God and Jesus as if they were the same person. Does it depend on the religion?

NO jesus is apart of god so is the holy spirit but they arn't the same

Tj3 · Oct 9, 2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CareBearsRule

NO jesus is apart of god so is the holy spirit but they arn't the same

Read John 1:1.

Jesus is God.

Read Isaiah 48:16-17.

You will see that God (The Father and the Holy Spirit) send God the Son.

Read Heb 1:8

You will see that God the Father calls Jesus God.

Read Is 44:8

You will see that there is only one God.

Read Matthew 3:16-17

You will see all three persons of the trinity at the same time.

There are few doctrines so clearly taught in scripture as the trinity.

MoonlitWaves · Oct 9, 2007, 01:02 PM

This is the best way I can explain my understanding...
As we know, God is God, the creator, He started it all.
Jesus is God in the flesh. God sent Jesus to spread His Word, and to die on the cross for our sins so that we may be saved. Jesus was with God in the beginning.
The Holy Spirit is God within us, and is our conscience of sort..it is what we feel inside us. The Holy Spirit is the tug we feel when deciding upon asking for salvation. The Holy Spirit is what we feel when we are moved spiritually (the good feeling). Our feelings of guilt and sorrow when we commit sin is the Holy Spirit within us, working with us. Our ability to understand the Word and grow is because we have the Holy Spirit in us. The Holy Spirit is God.
Therefore I would describe it like this. God is God-a being, Jesus is God, but a seperate being, The Holy Spirit is God but a seperate being. They are seperate, but They are all God.



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