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Old Nov 5, 2007, 08:07 AM
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important! need some opinions!

Hey Guys!
I was wondering about how yall thought about prayers in school. this topic is very important to me, and i would love some other's opinions on it! please, everyone, reply with your thoughts!
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 12:35 PM   #101  
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 12:43 PM   #102  
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well we could allow prayer as long as they are diverse. meaning we have a muslim praying in class instead of going to a private place to pray. as long as we can respect each other pray . prayers should be allow but if we are going to make difference in praying practices and allow ones an other not. then we should not allow it because descrimination is uncostitutional
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 01:27 PM   #103  
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I didn't say you and I didn't name anyone on this forum.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Serial killers have little compassion but also have a lot of passion for what they do, so I guess that's good!
What serials killer have is a lack of conscience. Which is what you are displaying here.

Now, please provide a quote or some evidence of my so-called "lack of compassion".
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What serials killer have is a lack of conscience. Which is what you are displaying here.

Now, please provide a quote or some evidence of my so-called "lack of compassion".
Lack of conscience? How so?

As for the lack of compassion I was referring to your attempts to denigrate a group of people who are not like yourself. NowWhat agrees as well and she's on your side.
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 02:14 PM   #106  
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Hey! Leave me out of this!!
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 04:26 PM   #107  
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Lack of conscience? How so?
You are maliciously using a type of fallacious argumentation called "poisoning the well". By associating me with a serial killer, you hope to make me so repulsive that others will avoid reading my comments:

Here is a better explanation:

The phrase was first used in its relevant sense by Cardinal John Henry Newman during a controversy with Charles Kingsley:

…[W]hat I insist upon here…is this unmanly attempt of his, in his concluding pages, to cut the ground from under my feet;—to poison by anticipation the public mind against me, John Henry Newman, and to infuse into the imaginations of my readers, suspicion and mistrust of every thing that I may say in reply to him. This I call poisoning the wells.

"I am henceforth in doubt and fear," he says, "as much as any honest man can be, concerning every word Dr. Newman may write. How can I tell that I shall not be the dupe of some cunning equivocation?" …

Well, I can only say, that, if his taunt is to take effect, I am but wasting my time in saying a word in answer to his foul calumnies… We all know how our imagination runs away with us, how suddenly and at what a pace;—the saying, "Caesar's wife should not be suspected," is an instance of what I mean. The habitual prejudice, the humour of the moment, is the turning-point which leads us to read a defence in a good sense or a bad. We interpret it by our antecedent impressions. The very same sentiments, according as our jealousy is or is not awake, or our aversion stimulated, are tokens of truth or of dissimulation and pretence. There is a story of a sane person being by mistake shut up in the wards of a Lunatic Asylum, and that, when he pleaded his cause to some strangers visiting the establishment, the only remark he elicited in answer was, "How naturally he talks! you would think he was in his senses." Controversies should be decided by the reason; is it legitimate warfare to appeal to the misgivings of the public mind and to its dislikings? Any how, if Mr. Kingsley is able thus to practise upon my readers, the more I succeed, the less will be my success. … The more triumphant are my statements, the more certain will be my defeat.

Source: John Henry Newman, Apologia Pro Vita Sua

Type: Argumentum ad Hominem

Logical Fallacy: Poisoning the Well

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As for the lack of compassion I was referring to your attempts to denigrate a group of people who are not like yourself.
You continue to corrupt and misrepresent my words. Provide the evidence. Where did I denigrate a group of people?

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NowWhat agrees as well and she's on your side.
NowWhat never made any such comments. And she wants you to leave her out of this. So it comes back to you.

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I attended both public and private schools (although it was a longtime ago. When I was in Kindegarten we said the pledge of allegience before school started and did not leave out the word God. I do not remember ever praying in public school but I don't see what the big deal about it is. I believe that everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe and they also have the right to express it the way they want to. Freedom of speech is guaranteed by the Constitution. What I find sad is that so many people want to argue over what offends them. Why do we have to walk on eggshells so often and worry about whether or not we are offending someone by what we believe? It takes all kinds to make the world go round.
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Old Dec 7, 2007, 05:37 AM   #109  
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G'Day.....again
Well I do believe children should pray in schools, we teach our kids they are descended from monkeys and they prey in schools.
The house built on the rock stands firm the shack built on the sand falls.
Pray for our Kids!!!!
Blessings <M>
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Christian prayer is ok..in a christian school.
I agree
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