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Old Jul 1, 2007, 09:40 PM
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Is ignorance=destruction a Christian teaching?

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Old Jul 1, 2007, 09:42 PM   #2  
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In what sense? Can you give me an example?
 
 
     
 
 
Old Jul 1, 2007, 10:23 PM   #3  
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read proverbs. just do it, its a useful read, if you pay attention to what it says. your answer is in proverbs.

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Marily agrees: I simply love the book of proverbs, in fact its my favourate book in the bible, whenever i need guidence, proverbs never fails me, and yes i do think that because of some peoples ignorance that they will have to face judgment, i believe the bible eff
 
 
     
 
 
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In what sense? Can you give me an example?

The reason I ask this rhetorical question is because I am continually having a conversation with someone who insists that all those not knowing God will be destroyed. When I point out that it seems she is accusing God of injustice by portraying Him as killing based on an inflexible rule she simply replies that the Bible clearly tells us that those not knowing God will be destroyed. When I explain that it depends on the reasons causing the ignorance she remains fixated on that inflexible rule.

Now, I personally don't believe that this rule-based conclusion is a Christian teaching. But I am wondering on just how prevalent this belief is among those calling themselves christians and if it is prevalent on why is it allowed to prevail by those who are taking the lead in being shepherds of the flock and whom one would assume should know better.
 
 
     
 
 
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No, it's not a Christian teaching.

Christian = Christ = New Testament (specifically the Gospels).

Proverbs is in the the Old Testament. If that is true, about ignorance = destruction, then we can prove anything by plucking a verse out of any OT book and shaping a teaching out of it, like knitting a sweater around a button? I don't think so! Read Proverbs in context and know how it fits into the Bible historically.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Aug 12, 2007, 01:29 AM   #6  
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christians believe in both parts of the bible.
the first part (among other things) prophecies the coming of christ, the second part is after and during the coming of christ.

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Old Aug 12, 2007, 05:15 AM   #7  
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Why is it an injustice to have a strict rule. If you speed, you get a speeding ticket ( or should) if you murder someone you go to jail.
If you don't accept Christ you are not saved. It is a persons choice, God merely sit the rules, man makes the choice.

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Wondergirl agrees: Man can say NO, but doesn't say yes. That is the Holy Spirit's work in him.
 
 
     
 
 
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Why is it an injustice to have a strict rule. If you speed, you get a speeding ticket ( or should) if you murder someone you go to jail.
If you don't accept Christ you are not saved. It is a persons choice, God merely sit the rules, man makes the choice.

I think you misunderstood me.

The way the person expressed the rule made relevant and factors I mentioned seem irrelevant. God is too just to proceed in that type of modus operandi. Brings to mind the carpet bombing during WWII where everyone below was trhe enemy amd deserved to die simply because the rule was that they were the enemy and therefore deserved death. Mankind proceeds along those inflexible lines--God does not.

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Ultimately acceptance of Jesus is necessary for salvation. But a person's rejection of Jesus doesn't occur in a vaccuum and the reasons are relevant to the passing of either imediate condemnatory judgement or to the extension of mercy and provision of illumination so that the person can make a truly informed decision with clearness of mind.
 
 
     
 
 
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Cal, (to finish my aborted rep)...Christians are called that because of Jesus Christ who officially appears in the NT. The OT is SOS (show our sin); the NT is SOS (show our Savior).

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cal823 agrees: yeah, but the old testament is an important part of christian teachings, just because we follow the new doesnt mean we should neglect the old.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Aug 12, 2007, 01:31 PM   #10  
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Christianity is very much a black is white, bad is good; up is down ...... kind of confusing religion. That is positive in the sense that there is plenty of room for all kinds of people with different religious opinions because of conflicting New Testament verses. There are also errors and proven forgeries that have made it down throught the ages that make it impossible to have a simple, cohesive NewTestament, hence, there is no one undeniably true Christian religion.

So, you asked is ignorance equal to destruction in Christianity. That is sort of a non question in a Christian sense. Perhaps, if you asked if rejecting the dogma that only Christians go to "heaven" (not sent to hell for eternity as destruction), then in the Christian worldview, rejecting Christianity(chosing ignorance) is equal to destruction.
 
 
     


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