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Oct 28, 2009, 10:05 AM
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| | | How do you respond to old testament law picking and choosing? Hi all:
I found an interesting letter while stumbling online, and I wanted to hear other people's thoughts about it. Here is the link: Why Can't I Own a Canadian?
I know many people will pick and choose out of the old testament, that some things are still relevant today and others are not. Jesus came to break down the barriers of the Law and the requirements it included.
What do you think? Is it alright to say that homosexuals are wrong because of that verse in Leviticus, or not? I feel like we have to take every other law with it too.
I'm kind of confused by the whole topic. Is the old testament relavent? Or is it now abolished because of Jesus?
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Oct 30, 2009, 05:46 PM
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Yes. I think so.
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Oct 31, 2009, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by arcura Gromitt82,
Yes. I think so.
Fred | So do I, Fred, so do I!
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Oct 31, 2009, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by arcura So I do believe that we should do as Jesus instruct and keep in mind that He is the fulfillment of the law and what that means.
It is a big part of His salvtion mission.
Peace and kindness,
Fred. | Keep in mind 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. Christ never gave us a license to sin, nor does Christ want us to walk with those that do sin. 1 John 3:23-24 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. |
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Oct 31, 2009, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by sndbay Keep in mind 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. Christ never gave us a license to sin, nor does Christ want us to walk with those that do sin. 1 John 3:23-24 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. | Christ never gave us a license to sin, nor does Christ want us to walk with those that do sin.
And yet WE ALL CONSTANTLY SIN!! Shame on us!
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Oct 31, 2009, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by gromitt82 Christ never gave us a license to sin, nor does Christ want us to walk with those that do sin.
And yet WE ALL CONSTANTLY SIN!! Shame on us!
Gromitt82 | Not true those that walk in the spirit do not sin Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. ~in Christ |
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Oct 31, 2009, 03:49 PM
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| It is POSSIBLE for a Christian to sin, BUT he will NOT live a sinful life-style.
We don't have to sin every day.
Christians are delivered from the PENALTY and POWER of sin. |
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Oct 31, 2009, 09:25 PM
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| galveston,
That's true.
If the Christian follows the rules set by Jesus.
A faith without works is dead.
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Nov 1, 2009, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by galveston It is POSSIBLE for a Christian to sin, BUT he will NOT live a sinful life-style.
We don't have to sin every day.
Christians are delivered from the PENALTY and POWER of sin. | We must walk having the spirit of truth within us. 1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as HE is righteous. 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 1 John 3:10 "In this" the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. REPENT and sin no more. Bearing your cross.. Pray Abba, crying to be all He created you to be. And live so that HIS will is done here on earth as it is in heaven. ASk that OUR Father will bless you with strength and courage. And that evil bows down, and flees from you forever and ever, so that no evil is done by you. In Jesus Name we ask and do believe. John 17:20-21 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. Amen |
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Nov 1, 2009, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sndbay Not true those that walk in the spirit do not sin Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. ~in Christ | Of course, " those that walk in the spirit do not sin", BUT can you point out many that walk in th spirit ALL THE TIME?
ONLY BY CONSTANTLY AND PERMANENTLY FIGHTING OUR TEMPTATIONS AND GETTING UP EACH TIME WE FALL can we walk in the spirit as you say. But our path is full of obstacles which we overcome every day.
Jesus Christ died in the Cross and one of the phrases He said while dying there was " Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. (Luke 23:34)
This few words are reminding us we must love our enemies. Do we, always? I must confess that I don't. And as long as I don't I'm in sin...
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Nov 1, 2009, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gromitt82 Of course, " those that walk in the spirit do not sin", BUT can you point out many that walk in th spirit ALL THE TIME?
Gromitt82 | When in the spirit, we are sanctified in Christ. Therefore we abide in Christ, and Christ dwells within us. (John 15:4 John 15:7) John 21:18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not. John 21:19 This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me. Once dead to sin with Christ blood and buried with Christ by baptism water, we are born of God. We follow Christ in HIS righteousness. We then glorify Christ and all He has done for us. If you eat and drink of the body and blood of Christ, we do it in remembrance of all He has done. The once and for all offering that has sanctified us. (Hebrew 10:10) It is the fulfillment of all that Christ suffered for us in fulfillment of the scripture. John 19:34-35 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe. ~in Christ |
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