Having the Spirit of Christ

sndbay · #1 Sep 5, 2009, 09:40 AM

Are individual that walk in the spirit concerned, and alarmed sinners, or do they through the spirit destroy deeds of sin in their body, and fulfilled the righteousness of the law?

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

So have we been told that those who are the called according to HIS purpose, are justified? Then who was Called?

And in all things we are more than conquerors through HIM that loved us! Then whom does He love?

We have been delivered and redeemed to be similar to the image of HIS Son? Then who can sin or be a sinner?

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore NOW no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

galveston · Sep 5, 2009, 11:28 AM

Do you see a difference between having the "Spirit of Christ" in salvation, and being baptized in/with the Holy Ghost? Or do you see them as identical?

sndbay · Sep 5, 2009, 12:07 PM

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Do you see a difference between having the "Spirit of Christ" in salvation, and being baptized in/with the Holy Ghost? Or do you see them as identical?

I view baptism as scripture has wiritten, the flesh dead and buried with Christ. Having a good consciene toward God with the heart and mind in desire to HIS will being done. And I view so much more then the one baptism because we have One Lord, and One Faith as well.

full assurance ( Col 2:2 - Hbr 6:11 - Hbr 10:22)

I would not see them as identical..

galveston · Sep 5, 2009, 02:16 PM

Acts 2:4?

sndbay · Sep 5, 2009, 04:18 PM

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Acts 2:4?

Galatians 4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

Maggie 3 · Sep 5, 2009, 09:14 PM

Sndbay, This is the way I see it. "Having the Spirt of Christ". We are all spirit beings,
but we are conformed to this world and it's ways. We restore our self by pursuing
the Lord repenting and conforming to God' Spirits. Rom. 12:1&2, "I beseech you therefor, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice,
holy, acceptable to God, witch is your reasonable service. 2, And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind."Doing bible things,
bible ways. I believe Paul is saying we bring ourself befor God each day, lay them on the altar before God, and ask Him to use us as sacrifice for His glory and good of His
people. And God wants us to depend on His Spirit to be transformed into people
who love to please God through willing obediece. That transformation begins with the mind."
We will behave like a Christian, if we walk in the Spirt of God. Rom. 12: 9-21
We will also love our neighbor and live by the Law of Love. This is a part of living
in the Spirt of God.

Blessings , Maggie 3

sndbay · Sep 6, 2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Maggie 3

Sndbay, This is the way I see it. "Having the Spirt of Christ". We are all spirit beings, but we are conformed to this world and it's ways. We restore our self by pursuing the Lord repenting and conforming to God' Spirits. Rom. 12:1&2, "I beseech you therefor, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, witch is your reasonable service. 2, And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind."Doing bible things, bible ways. I believe Paul is saying we bring ourself befor God each day, lay them on the altar before God, and ask Him to use us as sacrifice for His glory and good of His people. And God wants us to depend on His Spirit to be transformed into people
who love to please God through willing obediece. That transformation begins with the mind."
We will behave like a Christian, if we walk in the Spirt of God. Rom. 12: 9-21
We will also love our neighbor and live by the Law of Love. This is a part of living
in the Spirt of God.

Blessings , Maggie 3

Maggie,
I appreciate your thoughts, and with all love and faith in Christ, I will example where it is not identical but similar to what Romans 8 has offered to the thread. What I view is how we can arrive at the fulness of Christ that is given by a measure of stature to bring us unitied with Christ as a perfect man walking in the spirit as one with Christ. Christ prayed for this (John 17:11)

In (Romans 12) which you offered, it is as you said. To be conformed to this world means those that are exampled as refer: (James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God)

Contrarily do not conform to the world, But refer: (James 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded)

The verses in (Romans 12) goes on to say how in two different ways the members of the one body are gifted or dealt ("according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith" 12:3) or ( gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us 12:6)
So by our faith or by grace, God gives us accordlingly, "HOWEVER" none being the same, but each are different. (THIS IS WHY IT IS NOT IDENTICAL TO ROMANS 8)

I agree that the renewed mind is one that holds good conscience towards doing the will of GOD. And this is a sufficient measure of gift which we are told can be shown in One Baptism.

NOW go further to question the fulness of measure in Christ (Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ)

I view that they are not of this world or conformed to it ( John 17:15-16 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. ) (John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me)

NOW the fulness of Christ, having the Spirit of Christ refer: (Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live)

To mortify the deeds is to destroy the deeds of the flesh. So the first question on the thread = do they through the spirit destroy deeds of sin in their body, and fulfilled the righteousness of the law? YES, and it is no easy cross to bear

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Galations 4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

HOWEVER refer again: Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Maggie 3 · Sep 6, 2009, 04:15 PM

Thank you Sndbay, I am in a study on "spirituality", being restored by "Walking in the
Spirit" and conformed to God's Spirit. This is a very good study, and not easy, it is a slow
study and I am learning. I do believe I walk in the Spirit of God at times, and Hope I get to the point where it is all the time. I am studying with a Dr. Mcdonald at oru. He is on
God's Learning Channel. He is on three times a week. A new lesson each week so I
can hear the same lesson three times. It is hard for me to type what Ihave learned,
but it is a must study for the fullness of God.

Blessing, Maggie 3

galveston · Sep 7, 2009, 08:20 AM

Keep in mind that one of the ministries of the Holy Spirit is that of Teacher.

The Bible cannot be properly understood without the help of the Holy Spirit.

2 Cor 3:6
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
(KJV)

sndbay · Sep 7, 2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by galveston

Keep in mind that one of the ministries of the Holy Spirit is that of Teacher.

The Bible cannot be properly understood without the help of the Holy Spirit.

2 Cor 3:6
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
(KJV)

There is no doubt of this... This thread has been refer as being through the Spirit

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.