Are individual that walk in the spirit concerned, and alarmed sinners, or do they through the spirit destroy deeds of sin in their body, and fulfilled the righteousness of the law?

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


So have we been told that those who are the called according to HIS purpose, are justified? Then who was Called?

And in all things we are more than conquerors through HIM that loved us! Then whom does He love?

We have been delivered and redeemed to be similar to the image of HIS Son? Then who can sin or be a sinner?

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore NOW no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

sndbay

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

ClassyT, I hope these verses will aid in our discussion


2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Eph 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Col 3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him

"NOW"

Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

arcura

sndbay,
Didn't Jesus say that we should go by the spirit of THE LAW and not the letter?
Fred

sndbay

I trust this is what you mean Fred

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death

Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Gal 3:10-11-12 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

arcura

sndbay,
Very much so.
Fred

sndbay

Then let's go back to your question Quote: Actually scripture says go by the spirit of liberty and not the old letter. As I have posted the scriptures that says cursed is everyone that does not continue in the law (Gal 3:10-11-12). By doing as the law has taught us, and as Christ puts in our hearts, we are walking in HIS footsteps. We surrender our will to do the will of The Father .

Let's take what ClassyT has said We were in bondage to sin, and were servants of sin before the blood of Christ was shed. Now we have been brought and have been given the law of liberty, to serve as servants of righteousness. If we take our liberty to walk in the spirit, there is nothing bad said concerning those which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in them, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit

If we take liberty to walk after the flesh we are (cursed) = (reap what we sow). We put ourselves in bondage to sin. Just like being in bondage to a credit card when you use it. Beguiled by satan like Eve was in the garden. God promised not to curse them as He once did to Adam. Instead through experience of reaping what they had sown, they gain profitable knowledge by the help and hand of God. Everything that satan attempts is overcome by Christ, and HIS grace in forgiveness. (if they repent as done in daily praying of Our Father's Prayer that Christ taught us to pray)

We stand in jeopardy evey hour of every day, but we can rejoice in Christ Jesus by oath. To stand against satan, and his attempt to beguile us. And yes to die (flesh dies to walk in the spirit) daily, and to carry our cross is not easy. We are asked to be diligent that we may be found of Christ in peace, without spot, and blameless.

When we are begotten again we are adopted as a child of God, held to obedience and righteousness of God to walk in the spirit, and not the flesh.

Spirit of Adoption
Romans 8:11-14 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

1 Peter 1:3-4-5 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved(attend to carefully) in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

arcura

sndbay,
We are all sinners and we are all in the flesh even if it is decomposing in a grave.
Some do walk in the spirit of God but billions do not, most of them have never become familiar with Jesus and many have never heard of Him.
That's the way the world is now.
Please pray that many more people are converted to Christianity.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

sndbay

John 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

I believe in One Faith One Lord One Baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. God's will be done in HIS spiritual power to arouse and invigorate the spirit.

sndbay

Disagree..
Not according to scripture Fred. When the flesh body does end life here on earth, it will return (decomposing)to the dust of the earth. And the spirit returns to God. That silver cord that has the flesh connect to the spirit is loosen immediately.


Ecc 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

From there your spirit remain on one side of the great gulf or the other fixed until judgement day. Just as scripture speaks of in (Luke 16:26)

arcura

sndbay,
OF COURSE the spirit returns to God, but our flesh is in the grave.
Fred

sndbay

The statement you made is Quoted that we are all in the flesh even if it is in the grave. Not True, we are not out their in a hold in the ground. The spiritual body houses our inner self (the soul) and we are returned to God.

Do you think the earthly body does not perish into dust to return to the earth where it came? Even the ending trumpet examples how we are change permanently. (spiritual bodies brought forth leaving the natural earthly flesh)
REFER:
1 Corinthinas 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Scripture is telling us the dead shall be raised incorruptible (this dead is us, divided from or changed from the flesh to remain in a spiritual body) The only way we are incorruptible is in the spirit (changed). The flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. (1 Cr 15:15) That means the flesh can not be incorruptible. The flesh body returns to dust.

1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

We were born with a earthly image of the flesh but we will only bear the second body known as the image of heaven. (righteousness in the spirit)

BODY + SPIRIT + SOUL (Baptized the conscience mind is buried in Christ = dead)

This is why we are told, while we are here on earth, diligently work at walking and having the spiritual body in control. Let your spiritual body control your actions to show righteousness. For the flesh body can not please God.