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Old Sep 5, 2009, 09:40 AM
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Having the Spirit of Christ

Are individual that walk in the spirit concerned, and alarmed sinners, or do they through the spirit destroy deeds of sin in their body, and fulfilled the righteousness of the law?

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


So have we been told that those who are the called according to HIS purpose, are justified? Then who was Called?

And in all things we are more than conquerors through HIM that loved us! Then whom does He love?

We have been delivered and redeemed to be similar to the image of HIS Son? Then who can sin or be a sinner?


Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore NOW no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

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Old Oct 14, 2009, 10:30 AM   #91  
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IF they are walking in the spirit they are dying to their sinful nature and fulfilling the law of righteousness. But it is something one must do daily or moment by moment because we are left with our sin nature. It doesn't just go when we accept the Lord Jesus Christ.
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IF they are walking in the spirit they are dying to their sinful nature and fulfilling the law of righteousness. But it is something one must do daily or moment by moment because we are left with our sin nature. It doesn't just go when we accept the Lord Jesus Christ.


Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of HIS.

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Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Those that do sin are as scripture says in 1st John 3

1 John 3: 4-5-6 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that HE was manifested to take away our sins; and in HIM is no sin. Whosoever abideth in HIM sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen HIM, neither known HIM.

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as HE is righteous.

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that HE might destroy the works of the devil.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for HIS seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

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~THE WORD of GOD / Christ Jesus
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Positionally you are right! This is exactly how God sees us because of the Lord Jesus Christ. But Paul had to die daily and so do I. Good for you if you don't. I woludn't know anything at all about it. I still have to say NO to my flesh and occasionally it gets the best of me. Actually I have gotten irritated on AMHD before...and even that is a sin.

One last thought...our new nature cannot sin...i do not suggest it does.

But we have been around this mountain before. We don't agree much theologically but at least we both believe that the Lord Jesus Christ IS God and he came to save sinners. So I'm focusing on the positive.
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sndbay, hanks for the attempted green tag.
I've tried to give them but it just not work for me.
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Positionally you are right! This is exactly how God sees us because of the Lord Jesus Christ. But Paul had to die daily and so do I. Good for you if you don't. I woludn't know anything at all about it. I still have to say NO to my flesh and occasionally it gets the best of me. Actually I have gotten irritated on AMHD before...and even that is a sin.
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With all my heart of love for Christ, and for mankind, I desire the truth to be known for all. It is not me that is right but it is the Spirit that is truth. I offered the Word of Christ Jesus

Mankind must allow the Spirit within them. Surrendering in Faith of all that is written, for it is the Word of God. (the better way and covenant of promise)

Paul did willingly die daily, because he had put on the Spirit to walk in, and he was not permitting his flesh to walk in sin. (that is our cross of death, not hanging out there on a tree. But, buried in Christ) We live by following Christ Jesus, the bread of life.(walking in righteousness, walking in the Spirit).

We do have to say NO to our flesh, and remain stedfast in Love and Faith, not permitting ourselves to be beguiled as Eve was by satan. Repent of all sins, and go forward walking in the Spirit. (blood and water)

Belief in prayer, and the helping hand and strength of our Lord that dwells in us. ASK anything in HIS name, but remember it needs to be the will of God. AND, It is the will of God that we all follow, and walk in the Spirit.



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One last thought...our new nature cannot sin...i do not suggest it does.

But we have been around this mountain before. We don't agree much theologically but at least we both believe that the Lord Jesus Christ IS God and he came to save sinners. So I'm focusing on the positive.
Yes this is true. And I trust our difference is that I do not follow man or the denominations of religions.

I follow the Bishop and Shepherd of the soul. The church is the house of God, in which we go to give thanks and praise to God.(Hebrew 12:23-24)
Those that are born of the Spirit (begotten again) they are the adopted children of God, they are the little children who can enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The many members of one body in Christ is the fellowship of converted Christians.

I trust and have faith in the covenant of blood, the living bread of life
,(John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. ) and quench not the Spirit, the well of eternal life (John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. )

All mankind of the old covenant followed men such as Moses, Abraham and John the Baptist. Moses had the law of God, Abraham had the heart of love, and John the Baptist was the greatest of prophet calling in the wilderness to bring the WORD/who was Christ that would come. And people depended on the priesthood to offer up blood for their forgiveness. They were faithful servants doing the works that were done by faith held for God. (Hebrews 11)

We today have the new covenant, and have been returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of our souls. (1 Peter 2:25)
Who dwells within us, if we answer the one hope of our calling in One LORD, One FAITH, One BAPTISM, and One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. (we have put on Christ)



One last thought, Look at the scripture when Paul is teaching. Paul is in the Spirit, speak in the Spirit and comforting by the Spirit (This is the tongue of the Spirit)

2 Corthinians 1:4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.

Sanctified/ so able to speak in the Spirit, to say from God the Father and our Lord Jesus. ( let there be no confusion in this tongue that speaks)

1 Corinthains 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and [from] the Lord Jesus Christ.
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For the Christian forum, concerning "Having the Spirit of Christ". It might be necessary for further discussion or review. So I will posted this message of scripture in offering a solution. Please review previous posting, for support of your questions. and then we can go from there. I do ask anyone who has had the spirit of truth gifted to them, to help with this discussion.

May we all offer our thankful praise to the glory of God the Father, and Son Lord Jesus Christ.


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1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as HE is righteous.

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.


1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 3:10 "In this" the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.




The Perfect Man

Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ

The question is here, can you find unity of faith and the knowledge of Christ "within" that says:

1. Christ is the begotten Son of God, seed of David (1 John 4:9)

2. He is the Branch of Righteousness Promised(Jeremiah 33:15)

3. His body and blood purged my sins (Psalms 79:9) (Hebrews 1:3)(Hebrews 10:10)

4. We are dead to sin, being quicken together with Christ (Eph 2:5)(Col 3:3)


5. We are buried in Christ through baptism
(Romans 6:4) (Col 2:12)

6. Walk in the spirit of righteousness (Romans 8:4)





1 John 3:21-22-23-24 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

For those who do not believe...

2 Peter 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.



It YOUR Choice

2 Peter 1:10-11 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

1 Peter 1:3-4-5 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.


~in Christ
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